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I'm not religious, I'm spirtual!

Abdul Alhazred

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If I had to choose one or the other, I'd choose religious. It's at least possible to be religious without being a total idiot.
 
I thought you had to be spiritual in order to be religious. Or is it the other way around?
 
Abdul Alhazred said:
If I had to choose one or the other, I'd choose religious. It's at least possible to be religious without being a total idiot.
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Well at least if you chose spiritual -- which, is more of one's personal belief -- you don't have to worry about being brain-washed by some church. ;)
 
I selected spiritual because I think it is possible to be this as well as an atheist, which best represents my views as a philosophical Taoist.
 
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Iacchus said:
Well at least if you chose spiritual -- which, is more of one's personal belief -- you don't have to worry about being brain-washed by some church. ;)
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Of course I choose neither, but it's possible to be intelligent about some things while being brainwashed by a church that's been around a while. No such option is available for the new age s***head.
 
T'ai Chi said:
I selected spiritual because I think it is possible to be this as well as an atheist, which best represents my views as a philosophical Taoist.
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Are there unphilosophical Taoists? Are there Taoist ordinary slobs? :p
 
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Iacchus said:
Well at least if you chose spiritual -- which, is more of one's personal belief -- you don't have to worry about being brain-washed by some church. ;)
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You might not have to worry about being brainwashed by a church but you do still have to worry about being brainwashed by some guru, spirutual leader or whatever. Brainwashed is still brainwashed regardless of who does it.

I picked neither. In my opinion, saying that one s spiritual but not religious is like saying that you smoked marijuana but you didn't inhale. I think they are both unconvincing, fence-straddling BS answers. Either one believes in souls, spirits, higher powers, and all the stuff that goes into religious/spiritual thought, or one does not. I do not believe in those sorts of things so I am neither religious nor spiritual. If I DID beleive in those things, I would say that I was religious and skip wishy-washy answers like "I am spiritual but not religious"
 
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Iacchus said:
Well at least if you chose spiritual -- which, is more of one's personal belief -- you don't have to worry about being brain-washed by some church. ;)
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brainwash yourself at home in just 5 minutes a day!
 
I do not believe in spirit (except in a purely metaphorical sense), so I'm not spiritual. I believe that I give meaning to my own life and that my potential will only be realized through my own efforts.
 
Nyarlathotep said:

You might not have to worry about being brainwashed by a church but you do still have to worry about being brainwashed by some guru, spirutual leader or whatever. Brainwashed is still brainwashed regardless of who does it.
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The brainwashing we are referring to here is called "culture." In which case we are all brainwashed (biased) to some degree.


I picked neither. In my opinion, saying that one s spiritual but not religious is like saying that you smoked marijuana but you didn't inhale. I think they are both unconvincing, fence-straddling BS answers.
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No, your problem is that you really have no business speaking for someone else on these matters. Like I said there are those who chose spiritual, only because they wish to distance themselves from the particular form of brainwashing that the Church has to offer.

While indeed the scriptures warn us of such things: "God does not dwell in a house built by hands" and, "Many will come in my name to lead many astray."


Either one believes in souls, spirits, higher powers, and all the stuff that goes into religious/spiritual thought, or one does not. I do not believe in those sorts of things so I am neither religious nor spiritual. If I DID beleive in those things, I would say that I was religious and skip wishy-washy answers like "I am spiritual but not religious"
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These are "your" beliefs nonethess, which is evidence of your own particular brand of brainwashing/bias/culture.

Yes, and there is a deeper meaning connected to the word spiritual, so long as it isn't associated with the superficial antics of some religious-type organization.
 
I voted "neither" even though I attend a Unitarian church/fellowship. My Unitarian fellowship is small and is more like a club than a church. It's more philosophical in it's "sermons" than religious. I am more of a secular humanist now in my own personal belief system......although still investigating that belief system.....but don't think of it as a religion.

When I was a Christian, I would have claimed to be spiritual, but not religious. To be "religious" as a Christian, is bad!!! They look upon it with a meaning that is equal to being legalistic. That is one reason you might hear them get upset about being called religious. I don't know how other belief systems feel about being called religious.

I don't even know what it means to be "spiritual" now. All those years that I thought I was oh so spiritual. Now I just don't think it's bunk. Sorry if that sounds mean.
 
I think the main difference between spiritual and religious is that if you are religious, you give names and rankings to the supernatural things you believe in.
 
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