If we can get FLU VACCINE from Canada.......

Dorian Gray

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Dorian Gray
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why can't we get drugs? The hypocritical Bush admin is trying to get flu vaccine from Canada and Germany - all while making it illegal to get drugs from Canada because of "safety" issues. How is this justified? If drugs from Canada are unsafe, wouldn't flu vaccines be unsafe too?

Ah, but they're sending inspectors to check out the facilities, the vaccines, and the procedures. So the flu vaccines will be safe!

But wait, if we can send people to inspect flu vaccine facilities, procedures and samples, why can't we send inspectors to check out drugs?

Bush is such a douche bag. Why isn't the media and the Kerry campaign capitalizing on this hypocrisy? It basically verifies that the reasoning for making it illegal to get drugs from Canada is absolute bullsht, and that Bush is in the pocket of the drug companies. Because you see, only one of the drug companies makes flu vaccine, but ALL of them make drugs.
 
The drug compaines own our politicans.

I like the line "US compaines dont make th flu vaccine because of fear of lawsuits." Thats total BS. Foreign compaines who sell in the states are just as open to lawsuits as domestic companies.
 
And they make plenty of other drugs that are lawsuits waiting to happen. Vioxx being the latest example.

The point is, this little action proves that this admin has its hand in the drug company till. Yes, I said proves.
 
Hey , everyone knows that the drugs from Canada "Our home and native land!" are ok eh? Whats that all aboot any wayy?

you may start talking funny tho but pay that no itension K?

Take off You hoser

BTW we don't tip You knob.
 
The flu vaccine looks like a money-loser for whoever makes it. Certainly it wouldn't appeal to our big drug makers. First off, the stuff has to be redesigned each year. Then it takes several months to incubate the bugs in hens' eggs. Then you have only about three months of sales. And you're expected to sell the stuff for a reasonable price! No wonder we have to go overseas for it.
 
I'm worried because when I got my shot the needle had a label on it that said "Third World Flu Vaccine."
The doctor said he bought in the alley beyond the clinic by a middle eastern guy in a van with a very heavy accent.

But, I guess that's the risks you take when you live in such a backwards country as ours with all our dangerous third world drugs and vaccines.
 
Dorian Gray said:
why can't we get drugs? The hypocritical Bush admin is trying to get flu vaccine from Canada and Germany - all while making it illegal to get drugs from Canada because of "safety" issues. How is this justified? If drugs from Canada are unsafe, wouldn't flu vaccines be unsafe too?

Ah, but they're sending inspectors to check out the facilities, the vaccines, and the procedures. So the flu vaccines will be safe!

But wait, if we can send people to inspect flu vaccine facilities, procedures and samples, why can't we send inspectors to check out drugs?

Bush is such a douche bag. Why isn't the media and the Kerry campaign capitalizing on this hypocrisy? It basically verifies that the reasoning for making it illegal to get drugs from Canada is absolute bullsht, and that Bush is in the pocket of the drug companies. Because you see, only one of the drug companies makes flu vaccine, but ALL of them make drugs.
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This is just another example (of countless many), where Bush and GOP say one thing and do the opposite. This concept has been well documented in a book called "1984", I'm sure you've heard about it.

Another example of GOP "douche-baggery", are the statements from Bush and Cheney that go like this "Kerry and the liberal democrats will say and do anything to get elected". They were preaching this line from Wednesday onward. I guess it implies the Republicans would NEVER stoop so low as to say (and do) nasty things to get elected. After all, they're an honorable party. It also shows just how desperate they've become.

Charlie (2 more days! 2 more days!) Monoxide
 
I'm sure the Canadian taxpayers will be more than happy to subsidize their poorer southern neighbor's prescription drugs far into the future. :dl:

edited to add: That's why they want us to elect Kerry.
 
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba323/ba323.html

While some drugs do cost less in Canada, others don't. Furthermore, large numbers of Canadians come to the United States to buy drugs because so many drugs are not available at any cost in Canada. The Canadian government purposely restricts the overall availability of prescription drugs through a combination of a lengthy drug approval process and oppressive price controls. The result is that patients are often harmed.
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The approach to drugs and drug therapy is symptomatic of the afflictions of Canada's deteriorating health care system: overburdened, forced to ration care and operating in a straitjacket of centralized bureaucratic planning.


Although Canada ranked fifth among the 29 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) in the percentage of gross domestic product spent on health care in 1997, it ranked in the bottom third for availability of medical technology.

In a February poll, 78 percent of Canadians said their health care system was in crisis.
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Canada also keeps down the price of some prescription drugs by depending on other developed countries to bear a larger share of the research and development costs required to bring drugs into production. These costs average US$600 million per drug, so prices in the global market must reflect the need to attract investment and earn profits for future research and development. However, the cost of actually manufacturing most drugs is small, so manufacturers have discretion in pricing, which is why Canada can force them to set drug prices lower. If patients in every country paid a less-than-fair price for drugs, no money for research and development of new drugs would be available.
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Oopsie. I gues I was wrong about Canadians being more than happy to subsidize our prescription drugs. ;)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/canada_us_drugs

Canadians Seek Ban on U.S. Drug Shopping

TORONTO - Canadians must stop Americans from using Internet pharmacies to raid its medicine chest or face a drug shortage, a coalition of Canadian groups representing seniors, pharmacies and patients has warned.


The groups, claiming to represent 10 million Canadians, or about one-third the population, called on the Canadian government Monday to ban prescription drug exports.


They argue that Canada cannot afford to address U.S. drug shortages and soaring prescription costs with its own stock, which are often considerably cheaper for Americans because of government price controls.
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That's what Kerry won't tell you.
 
Please tell me Kerry wasn't counting on getting our drugs from Canada as part of his touted health plan.
 
I'm more than happy to help our fine neighbours to the south with flu vaccines. I certainly hope they would do the same should the situation be reversed.

And no, I'm not being sarcastic!
 
KelvinG said:
I'm more than happy to help our fine neighbours to the south with flu vaccines. I certainly hope they would do the same should the situation be reversed.

And no, I'm not being sarcastic!
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That's very neighborly of you. Do you mind if we raid the rest of your medicine cabinet, too?
 
Luke T. said:
That's very neighborly of you. Do you mind if we raid the rest of your medicine cabinet, too?
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As long as there aren't shortages up here, I have no problem with Americans buying Canadian drugs. However, it's very odd that drugs made in the USA ship to Canada and get sold for less up here than they do down there. I can see why people down there are pissed.
 
KelvinG said:
As long as there aren't shortages up here, I have no problem with Americans buying Canadian drugs. However, it's very odd that drugs made in the USA ship to Canada and get sold for less up here than they do down there. I can see why people down there are pissed.
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With ten times the population in the U.S. compared to Canada, what do you think are the odds of a shortage occurring in Canada?

Did you read the link from the NCPA I posted? You already have shortages of some drugs even without the U.S. raiding your medicine chest. It also explains why your prices are cheaper than ours.
 
Luke T. said:
With ten times the population in the U.S. compared to Canada, what do you think are the odds of a shortage occurring in Canada?

Did you read the link from the NCPA I posted? You already have shortages of some drugs even without the U.S. raiding your medicine chest. It also explains why your prices are cheaper than ours.
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No, I did not read the link you posted.

Yes, a shortage probably is a possibility. If that becomes an issue, then of course I don't want Americans swooping them up.
 
KelvinG said:
Yes, a shortage probably is a possibility. If that becomes an issue, then of course I don't want Americans swooping them up.
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So I guess it is safe to say that Kerry hasn't thought this through?
 
I would like to add one thing without quoting anyone in particular. I'm Canadian, and I know as a Canadian, Canada would come to the aid of anyone in need. Canaidians are very generous. We as Canadians would be happy to give or share with our American friends flu vaccine or any other medical needs. I do worry that the importation of drugs will probably hurt Canadians in the end, but hey, Americans need help and we're there.

As some Americans will attest to, it's much safer to travel with a Canadian flag (and especially a Canadian passpost).

I think that the "Angry Joe" Moslon Canadian commercial has many valid points. We believe in "peacekeeping" not "policing".

Jean Chretian was absolutely right in not being part of the "coalition of the duped".

Charlie (it's "zed" not "zee", "zed") Monoxide
 
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