If 'water memory' was an actual phenomena...

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Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about

  • water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices?
  • a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history?
  • a diagnostics test for pathology?

Anything else?

Athon
 
athon said:
Anything else?
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How about unimaginably expensive water treatment plants to give us plain old water without all sorts of unpredictable effects caused by all the memory it's picked up throughout the water cycle?

(A related thought--when does the magic water lose its magic and why? When the bottle is open and all sorts of airborne contaminants at solutions stronger than the remedy enter the water? When it touches your mouth and comes in contact with enzymes, organisms and what have you? After it's filtered in the kidneys? When it's peed out? When it's incorporated into your body tissue or cells?)
 
No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!
 
Hmm, logically, if water retains the memory of things that were shaken in it that means we could shake a person in water and it will keep their memories. When I die I'm going to come back as a swimming pool.
 
athon said:
Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about

  • water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices?
  • a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history?
  • a diagnostics test for pathology?

Anything else?

Athon
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Certainly. If water retained the memory of the container it was shaken with , we could stack it better.
Think what this would have meant to the Katrina victims...
 
At least you could get forensic data from go-go dancers, jackhammer operators, long-distance runners and boxers.

I don't know what percentage of serial killers fall into these categories, though.

What happens to peed-out homeopathic substances that go through the water processing system and then end up entering the homeopathic loop again? It could cause all sorts of terrible side effects! Somebody tell the drug authorities!

HOMEOPATHIC MELTDOWN!
 
rjh01 said:
No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!
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You forgot that water can also retain memory of shaken by giant machines which have been blessed by these qualified persons! Or machines which may have been purchased by blessed people. Or containers which had perhaps at some point may have been thought about by blessed persons. Or if the building the machine is located in has been blessed -- but not the warehouse next door. Too many negative vibes from people who think this water mixing thing is silly.
 
rjh01 said:
No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.
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Which is why people shipping and handling homeopathics take great pains to avoid shaking the remedies (which are certainly contaminated with molecules of any number of other substances by the time they're packaged). Oh. . . .they don't?
 
water memory

If water has all this memory, think of the applications in computing technology!
Take your average swimming pool, throw a processor in there and its directly connected to the memory on all sides. The data transfer rate would be only limited by the megahertz of the cpu!
Think of how easy it would be to add more memory!
Upgrading your hardware? Get your pool net, fish out the old components and throw in the new ones!

Laptops would be 24 oz water bottles with a blackberry type keyboard on the side!
 
Amazing how silliness begets silliness. The whole 'shaking' or potentising thing is just another layer of absurdity on the 'water memory' concept.

I wonder what transferring somebody's spinal fluid might do...

Athon
 
I've always thought that using water as a rewritable storage device would be getting major research for this sort of thing. I'd be the first to correct any notion that anyone in the hardware industry would actually want to prevent rather than fund such research.
 
Well, we also know memories can fail. What are the consequences if water memory fracs up completely, or forgets half of what it knows?

Oh noooooooo!!

I'm still looking for the little brains in water where memory is stored. Not sure if I should be looking at the oxygen or hydrogen molecules. Any suggestions? I've failed very miserably.

But this crappola works! If you pretend to ignore all the times it fails, that is.
 
Is water's memory storage infinite? Or is it reset by some process?

If infinite, where is all the information coming from? Is it being extracted from the ambient universe, or actually created in the water?

Created memory? ..hmm?

What happens when the water is absorbed into an organic body? Do my cells remember being a duck?

What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean?

Can this memory be interrogated? Can we regenerate a T-Rex from a teaspoon of seawater?

What happens when water evaporates? Does water vapour retain the memory? If not- where does the information go? Can we learn about chemistry by putting our head (covered with a suitable cloth) over a bowl of steaming water and inhaling the vapour?

If a hom solution of silica is put in a glass bottle, it may actually absorb more Si02 molecules from the glass than are in it to start with. Does this decrease the effect? If so, should the patient drink less?

Funny, once you start running your brain backwards, it starts to gather momentum. Can this be why homoeopaths find it so hard to stop?
 
Soapy Sam said:
What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean?
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Okay okay, we have to draw the line at woater crystallizing into rocks.

But hey, if you're a homeopath, or even a chiropractor, you can start to imagine all sorts of things! There is no reality, only the empty recesses of a limitless brain cavity after you learn about these things.

In this warped zone you can do anything! Just like with the secret, whatever you can possibly imagine can become reality in that recess from actual reality.

So, ice can become a crystal rock at the bottom of the ocean that remembers how to cure arsenic poison if it ever came into contact with arsenic!

I must patent this new discovery and sell it on the internet asap! Somebody has already cornered the market on crystal rock lamps... I must make something very perty with my detoxifying water crystals... hmmm

There are plenty of chiropractors I can sell them to.
 
The crystal rock lamps are mostly Permian rock salt. Their desire for new memories is so great that they soak up water from the air around them, learning all the while. After a couple of years, they shatter due to information overload, thus guaranteeing steady sales.

The problem with ice is getting it to stay on the bottom of the ocean long enough to turn into rock crystal, it having this distressing tendency to float...must be trapped there by quantum plate tectonics! See? This science stuff is easy once you get your brain in reverse.
 
No no, once ice becomes a crystal rock, it lies there, gathering more water rock around it, so it becomes big enough to turn into something perty. I just haven't imagined perty what yet, so don't go around trying to pick them up. I have to imagine the shape and dimensions into existence first, and they'll already be patented by then too. AND shakeable!

Quantum plate tectonics huh? I think I'll make up TACtonics. My brilliant imagination will once again become something marketable to physicists. If they don't think it's brilliant, then I'll just tell everyone the nasty scientists are trying to stifle yet another great discovery. Everybody will buy that book, you know, the one on detoxifying water rock crystals and quantum plate tactonics.

Mwa haaaa!

oof, it looks like the grammar gets bad when your mind starts to run in reverse logic too.
 
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And let's not forget the wonderful memory capabilities of lactose for the dry homeopathic remedies.
 
You listening out there, Jobs??
You can create iPods with the capacity to store a billion gigs worth of songs on a single wafer of lactose. In fact, as many songs as there are molecules in the universe. Which means all the combined works of the Beatles and the Stones on one iPod.
 
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