I can't get no sleep OR The insomnia bitching thread

nvidiot

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(Wasn't sure if this is more suited to FC or SMMT, if a mod thinks it should move please don't hesitate.)

Hands up who here is currently operating on less than an hours sleep in the last 48 hours.

Sometimes I think this will kill me eventually. Nothing seems to work. Drugs just stop working after a while, I have enough addictions as it stands, and I just can't seem to get off to sleep. When I do, I crash for anything up to 18 hours, and the cycle starts again.

My doctor recently suggested a new melatonin receptor based treatment, Agomelatin. They're classed as an anti-depressant though, and I've had horrific experiences with many classes of drugs labelled as such. My doc was very reassuring, says this stuff either works or doesn't, and has few side effects in comparison to other classes. Of course the PBS doesn't cover it yet in Australia, so I'll be stumping up 70 odd bucks to try it.

If you're a fellow insomniac who has tried these as a treatment I'd love to hear about your experience with it. Or if you found something else helped, I'm all ears.

To be rather blunt and honest, I'm not so much worried about that, I'm scared it will be just like all the other times I've sought help for mental issues. And I'm scared that if I don't do something about it soon I'll end up walking in front of a bus from sheer inattentiveness. Thankfully I don't drive, if I did I don't think I'd be alive to make this post.

I'm constantly exhausted, irritable, moody, and can't think straight even when I'm not trying to drown my brain in the evening in cannabinoids just to relax a little. That's probably a part of the problem to begin with of course, but that's a bridge I'm not willing to look at on a map yet, let alone cross.

I'm not well, and I just want to goddamn sleep for a year.
 
I hear ya, brother (or sister). If I don't take zolpidem tartrate (Ambien) I cannot get to sleep. For example, it is now 3:19 am as I post and I am not one bit sleepy. But the zolpidem does work most nights and once I get to sleep I am ok.

Insomnia is a complete bitch. Wish I could add something of value other than a knowing nod, but it's all I got.
 
I used to have horrible insomnia. Eventually found a treatment. Turned out I just needed to get more sleep.
 
Disturbed sleep is a very complex issue, it is effected by so many factors, unfortunately there is no quick fix.
Sleep hygiene is important, which is the practice of sleeping. A regular sleep wake cycle especially a consistent wake time. Quiet, darkness and temperature can be important. Caffeine schedule and alcohol use impact the sleep cycle as well, and street drugs.

Shift work slaughters some people.

Then there are the medical issues which effect quality sleep, a work up and sleep study can be beneficial, and sometimes a mental health evaluation.

You have my sympathy, I have disturbed sleep which is successfully treated.

How often do you have insomnia?
 
I've been dealing with insomnia for years now. I don't think it's as bad as the OP's - I do get a few hours of sleep every night. The major effect for me is that every so often (3 to 6 weeks, depending on how bad the insomnia has been) I'll spend an entire day catnapping to "catch up" on sleep.

There was a point a few years ago I was running 30 to 40 miles a week and off caffeine and it made no difference.

For now it's something I've just learned to work around, but fortunately I have a job schedule that is compatible with my sleep pattern (I seem to get the most sleep in one chunk between 2AM to 5AM and another somewhere between 6AM to 8AM)
 
It will pass and you will be onto something else, for now try slugging down a couple shots of good ole liquor and let the warm feeling ease you too sleep.
 
If only it were that easy, RedRatSnake. A couple of shots just doesn't cut the mustard, at least for me. The only solution along those lines is to drink enough to pass out. But then the quality of "sleep" ones gets is worthless.
 
I hear ya, i went through a bought of this during the summer and it sucked, i ended up drinking and it did give me an escape but at a cost i guess, it will pass and maybe just knowing that will help in a way.
 
My issue is the early morning waking, which with treatment is much less, but put me under stress and bingo, my body wakes up at 3:00 am, regardless of when I go to sleep. It used to be full awake too, but with treatment (zoloft) I usually get drowsy after 45 mins or an hour and a half and can go back to sleep for a little.

It was more of a problem when I stayed up until 12:00am, then by 2pm I was dragging from four hours of sleep.
 

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