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Merged Human greed versus logic

wendy moir

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Discussing a theory has to obviously involve a basic idea regarding who is involved and why the involvement would include conspiracy.

Government's such as America demonstrate to have always been involved in 1. secret orders associated to religious factions
2. these orders involved secret discussions and elitism
3. these orders involved the discussions relative to religious pursuit, as leadership, governing, power mongering, monetary gain and world control.

Therefore Government ideals such as in America were involved in espionage, the gaining of informed power assisting methodology, which included the gain of scientific awareness and new ideas for the personal gain of monetary benefits and also for power control, as a theme for worldwide domination. This has always involved religious ideals (fanaticism) along with scientific (alchemical) powers. This was why those in power worldwide even of religious intent have pursued Scientific exploration for self gain of money and elitism.

What has happened in America to gain such a conspiracy overview regarding 911 and previous incidences? Their financial losses and also the inability to gain any new form of scientific theory or developed science as the pursuit for not only enabling a resource of future intent as a world leader, but to ascertain personal monetary control and self benefit of this control as a world leader.

This led to the leaking of information from humans involved in the secret sciences at NASA involving Government pursuit of these powers. Hence it came to public awareness that they were involved in occult studies that included the psyche as states of mental health, brain development, activation of brain imagery etc. through drug taking experiments, psychic experiments and brain experiments, which is easily established via the amount of money spent at NASA on such pursuits involving the secret sciences called the occult.

The dispute of the occult as a spiritual pursuit is obviously one that previously caused a religious dispute between logical and illogical data causing religion to separate from alchemy. Yet why would any astute or supposedly intelligent human being as a Scientist be involved in spiritual matters as demonstrated by NASA and the Government themselves...having an organization involved in this pursuit through the gathering of intelligence...the CIA.

This obviously leads the discussion to Russia and their older Scientific methods of brain message study, psychic contact and also brain states that caused intelligence concern through espionage situations ....that psychics could disturb the Government officials brain states when they visited Russia. Hence this pursuit in America obviously demonstrated by NASA is evidently an important discussion, as they themselves have demonstrated just how much testing has been involved in these studies.

Therefore when it was leaked to the public that NASA was involved in paranormal events, and that the CIA through the American institution were involved in mind contact and also mind control pursuits for the purpose of espionage, then it was taken seriously by many in the American public.

Evidently the paranormal situation the CIA were involved with is linked to UFO and its witnessing and also the paranormal events involved in the witnessing, such as human attacks as a physical mind state and also a physical cell state alteration, as per evidence world wide.

What was seen a year before the 911 buildings fell? UFO bodies were witnessed hovering outside of windows. How would this information advise us of the conspiracy that involves occult methods and also world finance at the 911 building incidences? MIND CONTROL obviously, the ability to access a human mind for the purpose of persuading particular choices and actions to take place to support the American Market and also the gain of control in the market itself.

Obviously you would need just as I have to ask yourself could mind control be gained? This would and should lead you to question, what is paranormal the discussions of spirit and brain states? If not for a scientific understanding of how a human being as a mind state (chemical) and a cellular state (chemical reactions) could be affected as an attack and as a personal choice without the human identifying that their choices are being controlled or possessed?

What were the ancients actually discussing that became a religious pursuit for higher intelligent thinking as the purpose of teaching humanity the reverence for life?

What we would imply is the spirit of life or the breath of life....oxygen itself as a religious review involving alchemy, as demonstrated was the ancient practices.

Therefore as many archaeological evidence has supplied human beings seem to have been intelligent in our ancient history and were also destroyed enmasse by discovery of nucleated sites and bodies. Hence spiritual teachings seem to have a method applied as a teaching implement and purpose regarding the ancient evidence that human beings have a self destructive nature. Therefore spiritual teachings seem to actually imply a purpose in our social standards for life continuance.

If not, then why would such institutions such as the Catholic Church be involved once again in science and the pursuit of science itself?

Therefore when you logically apply this information to the American Government and their occult associations, then it is obvious that they are involved in a method of utilizing the atmospheric transmissions for their own purposes of world control via satellite transmissions and imagery (caused by falling sound bodies changing sound-transmission contacts)....imagery that we could call spirit encounters that involves the actual changing of our brain chemistry, providing the evidence of cellular alteration also.

Hence secret Government atmospheric testing via satellite and then the observation upon the human cell is obviously the secret the American Government is involved in, especially when science has stated that it is looking for what is explained as a God cell, for the purpose of trying to identify cell replacement as per human cellular information. This displays their own greedy purpose as a future resource test experiment, whilst also destroying the atmosphere in which we all live.

It would be why such statements were released that the secret organizations involving Government officials believed that a huge loss of human life was worth their illegal associations to occult study and occult applications. It is all about GREED.

Hence as stated by those who release secret information concerned for our future life and humanity, they suddenly find themselves murdered or supposedly accident deceased or via a suicide that did not seem to involve a personal life event. Hence many involved in these situations dispute the Government and have tried to gain public support of the illegal CIA involvement in personal human life espionage.

Having this mind control signal would allow them to motivate and use criminals in a new espionage. Therefore this would allow them to secretly pursue criminal activity without involving the American Government.

Therefore as espionage has always involved control of personal choice, to have mind contact and mind alteration information regarding chemical exchanges, the ability to receive imagery by satellite transmissions involved in choice making and thinking purposes, then it is obvious what is happening to us all....America already is using this satellite program, they are attacking us as a physical being, to gain data, and also a feedback program as a computer relayed system.

You can look at how information can be relayed, received and fed back via computer programs not involved in either a telephone system or electrical system. Therefore we have the demonstration that this form of atmospheric signal attack and relay is developed and can be applied to the human cell and chemical responses via a data program.

As human choice is involved in the money market, then as America seems to have made poor choices in their intelligence, using a mind contact mind control signal would not have achieved the espionage they wanted. After all it is still run by a human being thinking for other human beings.

Therefore this led to the American decisions to actually cause a terrorist situation themselves altering their financial control loss in the world market. It would have been the only solution, to cause blame of terrorism on other countries as the act of terrorism was to cause the exchange in other countries financial markets to not be supported as terrorist acts demonstrate.

Hence it would have allowed America to gain a position of control that they were fast losing.

The evidence is obvious, if you care to look into scientific pursuits of this Government, the obvious UFO fallout situation first established by scientific testing to NASA's own secret UFO testing applications, to the receipt of personal human attacks worldwide via these radiation (radio) signals that were contacting human beings and altering the brain receptors.

I therefore came to realize myself that this situation relates to the occult, to NASA and to the American Government and their pursuit for world takeover and it is much more sinister that previously thought.

I apply to this theory because the American Intelligent organization has demonstrated world wide how acute their intelligent spy information is. They know what terrorists are plotting via their televised demonstrations of listening to these groups. Hence how could American intelligence have allowed such a huge terrorist attack to occur only from the review of how acute intelligence actually is regarding America.

How would a Government go about arranging for a world wide deceit to cause a situation to support their own methodology of espionage?

Having mind control allows the criminal to be used as a victim and is the ugliest deceit that any human being has ever committed as a criminal act in human life.

Would any one of us really question would a greedy power mongering self control human being go to this extent to obtain what they proposed was total world control......of course they would.

What everyone should question is can mind control be caused?

Drug taking and mind altering effects at a chemical based level provide the evidence, as has supposedly the physical condition called mind possession...as a discussion that causes physical displacement to be observed along with the hearing of voices telling you what to do.

Apply this information to a controlled satellite program caused by nucleated transmissions as fall out (burnt transmissions) and you have the obvious solution for a Government to study these transmissions and then use them themselves regarding brain control.
 
Conspiracy and ancient religion

Religion is the basis and study for the motivating causes involving conspiracy, involving the elite who formed these secret associations for the purpose of world control, involving the money market and also a scheme for controlling the populous via sciences.

Sciences involve the science of the human life as a formation function and also as a life spirit, as did the gain of spiritual power wisdom called the Creator in the pursuit of atomic/nuclear informed states to be used and applied in life applications (such as alchemy).

Science provides the motivation for the elite to provide schemes for secret experimenting to gain the powers of the spirit. This would include the possession of the spirit to control personal thoughts and self motivation as a religious practice and pursuit and also the resource of the spirit nature that provides the means to gain world powers both as a power of fear (involving nuclear), but also as a power to gain monetary benefits to enable the elite to stay the elite.

Conspiracy involves the different religious pursuits, the many different brotherhoods as purposeful practices, the applied theories involving the Holy Grail (nuclear advice) and also the applications of using the advice against others involving the safety advice of stopping the human abuses applied in these pursuits.

These conspiracies has been an involved practice as a pursuit for a very long time in our human history, as revealed by many authors covering this topic of discussion.

Therefore a great amount of money has been spent over the years trying to gain the wisdom of the human consciousness and what was applied in ancient wisdom as God or the body of God, as spiritual information.

Hence when we review past information and the applications of the occult involving elitism and secret methods, it ALWAYS INVOLVES some form of SCIENTIFIC PURSUIT.

The money market, a place where world leaders from different religious backgrounds supported an exchange for their own countries goods, allowed them to increase their elite status and maintain their monetary values. This allowed particular countries to gain more wealth than others. This causes fearful retribution, a fear of losing religious/governing ideals as a personal choice, which has always involved the conspiracy of the religious brotherhoods.

Therefore world leadership has always been sought through both religious pursuit and also monetary gain, which has always involved SCIENCE.

Understanding elitism and how greedy and arrogant these human traits are is to simply look at the standards which apply to these methods. Wars and death and human agony has always applied to the pursuits of the elite, who have kept illegal secrets of self motivation from the public arena which they imply they support.

Instead when we begin to observe the elite in their day to day business, we begin to review how evil many of them actually are....humans who have no respect for their own country men, spiritual religious pursuits and are humans who would kill anyone for their own purpose of greed and power.

This is what conspiracy involves and there is actually no secret in the realization of human greed motivated to cause self destruction to life on Earth in the pursuit of personal power.

Hence when we look back into the conspiracy situation involving religious disputes, we find that science has always been involved.....why else was the holy grail discussed as being associated to these disputes, the discussions of the Creator.

Ancient holy persons therefore employed methods to persuade the public advice regarding illegal scientific activity of these scientific pursuits that had caused the death and decimation of humanity many times in our ancient civilizations. This is why these religious stories were written and taught, TO PREVENT GREED AND ELITISM AND ALSO SCIENCE.

Archaeological evidence has therefore supported the advice of religion that ancient humans had nucleated themselves in our ancient history by allowing such practices to be applied in their societal choices.

Therefore authors involved in these secret order study found themselves murdered, causing their friends and relatives to continue on the pursuit to bring justice back into the lives of their fellow country men, for the purpose of trying to save our future. This is what the conspiracy has always involved.

As life as we know it can end through an act of science, many authors were motivated to study the American conspiracy involving secret brotherhoods and illegal scientific experiments of the occult, involving the elite and their pursuit for world power (nuclear) but also religious power (creator) as an act involving persuading their own country men that they are higher in consciousness and spiritual practices than others elsewhere in life.

Therefore many times we have our religious significance brought to our attention, providing the evidence for life continuance as a cause of concern that we are all obviously from the same spirit of life....we might live in other countries and have been taught Creator information as religious science through different applications, yet we are all the same.

Therefore allowing secret orders in the elite to be the motivating hidden agenda for governing and government choices, allows us to review how and why arrogant and egotistical human beings try to manipulate and over rule common sense judgments in our human life involving religious practices and the conspiracies of the elite.

As World religious Governments have proven to been difficult to manipulate by choice and applied religious laws, this then advises us about the illegal practices re-emerging involving religious conspiracy and governing techniques that also involve OCCULT SCIENCE, as a situation for gaining personal spiritual control of humanity world wide, which could only involve the secret teachings of spirit (Creator) and how it related to our life force and previous ancient teachings.

This was why some Scientists involved in the American secret brotherhood pursuits in Science were murdered, had died in accidents or suicide for no apparent reason. Some humans do have a spiritual consciousness and do not purposely work for the conspiracy gain, but have obviously died because of these occult science pursuits.

It is why anyone trying to study the science of NASA regarding UFO as unidentified falling bodies were treated in the same manner. Many websites list the human beings who were studying UFO information and the American Government and their murders/accidents etc. These humans were trying to identify the situation involving the American Government and the UFO situation itself which was attacking humanity worldwide.

If you could no longer use your elite practices of monetary manipulation as a human social condition, then the obvious would lead to a choice involving a new control situation of the SPIRIT....our cellular life, our personal choice making, the acts called possession....leading us to the review of America's historical evidence of OCCULT Science and its own secret religious practices.

Would any world leader question the reality of the secret religious brotherhoods, their ancient pursuits, as the acts for protecting our spirit life and our spiritual nature? Why would such ancient choices have occurred and been pursued, if not for the reasons of greed and elitism and spiritual secrets involving purposes that life is holy and sacred and that scientific pursuits involving the occult practices of possession (evil) or alchemy are now being employed through the use of atmospheric/satellite transmisSION.

What is possession and why did the ancients imply illegal religious acts involving evil spirits as breaking the Holy laws? Especially when the evil spirit implies that it relates to the destruction of life itself and also to the holy possession of our sacred spirit....our life spirit, our mind spirit....our consciousness?

What is the burnt spirit, if not for the nuclear or the atomic.....the loss of the light body from out of our preceding holy spirit of light? Where is Heaven, if not beginning in our own Earth atmosphere above us? Where is Science now exploring......in our Heavenly atmosphere.

Who is causing the loss of this spirit....Scientists are. Who is causing our life to be threatened by what many quantify as a spiritual attack of an unholy spirit and for terrible diseases to suddenly manifest in our cellular bodies, our holy life....Scientists are causing it.

Therefore conspiracy and religion is a real subject for public and religious consideration involving our personal life choices, choices that the majority of humanity were persuaded to give away to the elite who supposedly were meant to care for our welfare both as a life situation and our life continuance.

Is our life spirit the same spirit worldwide?

DNA proves that it is...therefore just because we exist in different continents DNA establishes we are the same family, a family religions worldwide discuss that was caused by a Creator in our Earth Heaven (atmosphere). Only a slight variance of information in DNA denotes difference of family inheritance.

Therefore if in ancient civilization the differing spiritual brotherhoods in many countries joined as an established order to prevent our spiritual downfall, wouldn't it be obvious that they were concerned about LIFE ITSELF?

I ask when is humanity going to gain their own self realization that the elite have always abused us and lied to us for their own self benefit. That scientific pursuits are against the evolution of life, the obvious real teachings of spirit.

Only historical evidence can provide religious support as a teaching and a method of purpose. Archaeology therefore provides the evidence that in ancient civilization nucleated events involved the decimation of life. This is the motivating reasons why religious documentation has been reviewed as a science and discussed as a purposeful holy teaching by wandering holy men as Teachers.

Holy Teachers have therefore supported the evidence that wisdom implied to science and the Creator of life our atmospheric Heavenly spirit.

Therefore neither Science nor Religion is correct in their non support of the ethical reasons involving both identifying practices as an ancient method of teaching.
 
Religion is the basis and study for the motivating causes involving conspiracy, involving the elite who formed these secret associations for the purpose of world control, involving the money market and also a scheme for controlling the populous via sciences.

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tl;dr
 
Hi Wendy, welcome.

tl;dr means too long, didn't read. Same here. skimmed it. It seemed ... well, looks like you've done a lot of thought here. But each sentence/paragraph makes me wonder if I could or should follow/untangle any of it. I made it through I think 3 of them, hoping to understand something, before I panicked and swam back to shore.

Let's try this - what's one main point from this (or your other new word salad bar discussion thread) that you'd like to emphasize and make sure we get?
 
Apply this information to a controlled satellite program caused by nucleated transmissions as fall out (burnt transmissions) and you have the obvious solution for a Government to study these transmissions and then use them themselves regarding brain control.

Burnt transmissions carry no theory.
 
Therefore neither Science nor Religion is correct in their non support of the ethical reasons involving both identifying practices as an ancient method of teaching.

That's why we need Sciligion which combines the best of both, it seeks the knowledge of the mind in the larger universe then focuses on the individual mind for personal progress thereby allowing our spirit to drink the wisdom of the gods at the fountains of the deep.
 
Hi Wendy, welcome.

tl;dr means too long, didn't read. Same here. skimmed it. It seemed ... well, looks like you've done a lot of thought here. But each sentence/paragraph makes me wonder if I could or should follow/untangle any of it. I made it through I think 3 of them, hoping to understand something, before I panicked and swam back to shore.

Let's try this - what's one main point from this (or your other new word salad bar discussion thread) that you'd like to emphasize and make sure we get?

Good luck with that; I found comments by Wendy here and here that suggest to me that she's incapable of distilling a main point from her word salads, much less rational discussion of them. I see a lot of meaningless buzz-words and phrases, conclusions ("hences" and "therefores") that don't seem to follow from any premises or evidence that came before them, and a lot of conclusions that are the premises and evidence (IOW, perfect circles).

The gist of it, though, seems to be that "the elite" have always controlled both religion and science in a world-wide conspiracy, and (therefore?) the rest of us- the "populous"- are and always have been screwed. Nothing original here; other than as a striking example of logorrhea, there's no there there. From her comment at the second link above ("The Power of Suggestion"- you have to scroll down the page a ways to see her comment), for example, we see this:
Social control was effected by creating a religious system that was written in a way to discuss the problems we incurred for being incarnate. So called intelligence tried to find the means through which ignorance was self created in a spirit that obviously had demonstrated to be very different as a self through their own observations.

That first sentence make a little sense; but I defy anyone to tell me intelligibly what the next one means. It's like a random phrase generator gone wild.
 
I started trying to re-write this so that it would begin to make sense, but I gave up. It can't be done.


A conspiracy theory must include basics such as who is involved, and why they're involved.

The American government has always been involved in conspiracies:

1) Conspiracies involving religious factions

2) Conspiracies involving secret elites

3) Conspiracies involving other stuff

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I think I found my year's supply of therefores and hences.

Well, I found something interesting- you can read Wendy's little screed in reverse order,* paragraph by paragraph from last to first, and it makes just as much sense as the other way around. This tells me that none of the conclusions- the "hences" and "therefores" (or the "evidentlys" and "obviouslys")- actually follow from anything that came before them, so it makes no difference how you read it; its only sense is as a perfect circle.

*Or even in no order at all- reading paragraphs in random order gives the same effect of- to be diplomatic about it- a somewhat scrambled thought process.
 
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