Howard Dean, tells it like it is.

corplinx

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So Howard Dean's son was arrested for trying to steal liqour from a country club. fox's story on it

I find his remark, ""Children do stupid things and this is one of them" to be pretty down to earth. I am not a big Dean fan but I sympathize with him for having something embarassing like this happen. It could be a blessing in disguise since I think most people don't care but any press for Dean is good press since he doesn't have good name recognition.
 
corplinx said:
So Howard Dean's son was arrested for trying to steal liqour from a country club. fox's story on it

I find his remark, ""Children do stupid things and this is one of them" to be pretty down to earth. I am not a big Dean fan but I sympathize with him for having something embarassing like this happen. It could be a blessing in disguise since I think most people don't care but any press for Dean is good press since he doesn't have good name recognition.

The press should counter with the fact that George Bush was arrested for shoplifting while at Yale.
 
Dean seems to be the only Democratic candidate whose followers really get excited for him...

He does give a good speech.

I don't know how well he would do in a general election though.
 
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Malachi151 said:


The press should counter with the fact that George Bush was arrested for shoplifting while at Yale.

First I've heard of it. Source por favor?
 
2004 Presidential election results

Dean/Feingold: 291 electoral votes

Bush/Cheney: 247 electoral votes


If I'm right I ought to win the Million Dollar Challenge to boot. Should Randi cough it up I'll buy everyone a beer to celebrate.
 
Re: Re: Howard Dean, tells it like it is.

Malachi151 said:


The press should counter with the fact that George Bush was arrested for shoplifting while at Yale.

Why should the story be countered at all? Why does it need a counter? I haven't seen any evidence this will be used against Dean. If anything, it makes him look more human.
 
Malachi151 said:


The press should counter with the fact that George Bush was arrested for shoplifting while at Yale.

The 'press' should counter news that may hurt Dean politically (though it shouldn't) with news that may hurt Bush politcally?

Yes. Of course they should.

Very revealing, Malachi.

MattJ
 
Bad wording on my part. If the topic became an issue, then Dean should discuss Bush's history of shoplifting, DWIs, and being busted for cocaine. Given that Bush has these things hanging over thim I doubt it will be an issue though.

http://www.stopdubya.com/

Dubya has a rather seamy past. He is an admitted drunk who has at least two DWI convictions. I'm contending this based on the 18 month suspension of his license for drunk driving after a night out in Kennebunkport. This would have been unheard of in the early 70s for first offense DWI. Maine's DWI law back then called for a 90 day suspension. You can look this up for yourself online. What other traffic offenses has he committed? I'm saying it was a DWI or something more serious.

Coke bust... yes, Dubya had one in 1972. This was documented in the book Fortunate Son. His record was expunged but he has never offered any explanation of why he did a year of Community Service at the Martin Luther King Jr. Center in Houston. Judging by what other cocaine convictions were bringing in Texas during that time period, I'd say he got off rather richly. A coke bust in 1972 Texas could have got you life.

There are serious allegations that he was involved in an illegal abortion in the early 70s. Larry Flynt claims to have incontrovertible evidence from a woman who was dating Dubya in that era. It's ironic that now Dubya seems committed to ending a woman's right to choose, starting with an executive gag order prohibiting foreign clinics from suggesting abortion as an option if they want to keep their funding.

Dubya was the son of priveledge and power during the Viet Nam era. He joined the Texas National Guard, jumping in front of hundreds of men on the waiting list so he could avoid combat duty. Then he went AWOL from the Guard for over a year to serve in some Louisiana politician's political campaign. This has been well documented by his commander in the Louisiana guard unit he "transferred" to. When asked about this travesty and rich man's draft dodging, he simply says he was honorably discharged.

At Yale, he distinguished himself with arrests for football hooliganism and shoplifting. He was also in the Secret Society "Skull & Bones", a group of powerful elite young men with strange fetishes for death. Their exploits, including strange sexual sessions in coffins and nude mud wrestling were documented in a presentation on The History Channel called "Secret Societies. A full transcript of that program is available on this site. I am conducting an investigation of the Skull & Bones membership to determine what influence they have had on our country. I'm not a conspiracy buff, but BOTH Dubya and Poppy Bush are members of Skull and Bones .

okay, not the greatest source, but I've seen other sources before, this was just the first thing I could find.
 
Malachi151 said:
Bad wording on my part. If the topic became an issue, then Dean should discuss Bush's history of shoplifting, DWIs, and being busted for cocaine. Given that Bush has these things hanging over thim I doubt it will be an issue though.

Given the problems the Bush twins have gotten in as well as Noel Bush, I doubt the Bush family would throw stones at Dean.
 
It's interesting that we demand such morality and high values out of politicians just so we can elect them and allow them to lie and steal.
I guess we like the illusion that they are good, honest folk.
 

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