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How was the Universe created?

Daryl17

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I know we wont find out any time soon, but if you had to make an educated guess based upon your current knowledge how would you say the universe was created?
 
how can we even make an educated guess?

The closest i can go is "something very small and very energy dense started expanding".... anything before that, there is currently no way of knowing, so i fail to see why idle speculation would matter.

:)
 
TobiasTheCommie said:
how can we even make an educated guess?

The closest i can go is "something very small and very energy dense started expanding".... anything before that, there is currently no way of knowing, so i fail to see why idle speculation would matter.

:)
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Many physicists study the question. Scientific papers on pre big-bang scenarios are published. Ekpyrotic universe is one scenario so is brane cosmology.

nimzo
 
nimzov said:
Many physicists study the question. Scientific papers on pre big-bang scenarios are published. Ekpyrotic universe is one scenario so is brane cosmology.

nimzo
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M-Theory isn't a theory yet.. at most it is a hypothesis, so for now it is irrelevant, imo. Once it gets a better foothold, maybe.. At least that is how i understand it.
 
TobiasTheCommie said:
M-Theory isn't a theory yet.. at most it is a hypothesis, so for now it is irrelevant, imo. Once it gets a better foothold, maybe.. At least that is how i understand it.
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I was mostly responding to this part of your message:

so i fail to see why idle speculation would matter.
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I just wanted to point out the fact that some cosmological model of the universe like the ekpyrotic model, are studied scientifically and are in my opinion quite interesting scientific subject even if speculative.

nimzo
 
ah, oki. :) well, i think it is interesting to study, and i think it should continue.. but i wouldn't want to use it as an argument... BUT to each his own :)
 
A long time ago in a a galaxy far far away, but before time, the galaxy, and distances even existed, something came from nothing by creating itself.
 
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Daryl17 said:
but if you had to make an educated guess based upon your current knowledge how would you say the universe was created?
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Well, I guess my first question is how do you know the universe was created?
 
Being that there is an infinite number of ways in which there could be something in the Universe, and only one way for there not to be anything in it; I'd say chances are very good that there will be something in the Universe, to begin with. It did not have to be created at all.


But, then again: Perhaps the Universe does not even really exist. Maybe this is all just going on in your imagination.
 
T'ai Chi said:
A long time ago in a a galaxy far far away, but before time, the galaxy, and distances even existed, something came from nothing by creating itself.
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Which fairy-tale story is that?

Because that's not resembling any of the current scientific hypothesises. In particular, no cosmologist I've heard of is arguing that there was nothing.
 
I believe in the Big Bang theory. God said..."BANG!"...and there it was.

Ecman told me that one. :)
 
T'ai Chi said:
A long time ago in a a galaxy far far away, but before time, the galaxy, and distances even existed, something came from nothing by creating itself.
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Are you talking about God, or the Universe?


Meanwhile, on topic -

It would be nice to know where everything came from, but I suspect we'll never have more than plausible theories.

For now I lean toward the continually expanding, then collapsing Universe idea. That doesn't answer where the "stuff" that got it all started came from, but it seems to make sense, based on my very limited knowledge at least.

Edit, because Collapsing, and Condensing aren't exactly the same thing :)
 
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Science has evolved now to the point where we can say with a great degree of confidence that the Universe was created by government contractors. If you'll notice, the Universe is over 10 billion years old and still isn't finished. Also the laws of the universe are very difficult to understand. In fact, no one on earth has even been able to discover them all, much less come to terms with what they mean. Seems fairly straight forward to me.
 
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bob_kark said:
Science has evolved now to the point where we can say with a great degree of confidence that the Universe was created by government contractors. If you'll notice, the Universe over 10 billion years old and still isn't finished. Also the laws of the universe are very difficult to understand. In fact, no one on earth has even been able to discover them all, much less come to terms with what they mean. Seems fairly straight forward to me.
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My guess is that the universe and its laws are a tiny bit of consistency which formed out of a vastness of inconsistent possibilities because one such possibility was exactly that, that some consistency would form somewhere and seperate itself off.
 
Iamme said:
I believe in the Big Bang theory. God said..."BANG!"...and there it was.

Ecman told me that one. :)
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To paraphrase the OP:

.. but if you had to make an educated guess based upon your current knowledge how would you say God was created?
 
Every answer is wrong, and will be always wrong. We delimitate "the universe" in relation to our senses and the thinking process that derives from our biology. Pathetic little humans, or was it poor little poets?
 
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