How to get Addicted to Heroin, Lesson 1

Mr Manifesto

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I've used a fair range of illegal drugs. Didn't get into heroin because I really didn't want to associate with the heroin dealers, who, to me, were a different class of crim to your usual dope dealer. I had a friend who used it occasionally, and he didn't turn into a ranting, staring wizened junky, but it still wasn't really enough incentive for me to try it. Since then, I've seen more than enough junkies stabbing one another in the back, making all kinds of plays, double-crossing, scamming, cheating, cutting corners, you name it. I finally thought, well, how do I know one of these guys isn't going to cut it with borax because they couldn't afford icing sugar and that's all there was in the house?

A lot of people in my year in high school became drug addicts. Most of them were in the same clique. Weird, I thought. Especially because these people were the 'beautiful people', and also the moralisers. One of them bit my head off because I taught my peer support group how to stage dive as a trust exercise. Another ranted and raved at me for smoking. She lost two jobs due to her addiction, and now has to start her life from scratch because no one will hire her in her chosen career path.

How did these people get addicted, I wondered. They were from middle-class families, well educated, mostly no history of abuse (one or two of them would have been diddled by a relative if statistics are anything to go by). Where did they go wrong?

Then I met a friend of mine who was also friends with a lot of the people in the clique in question. I dropped out of high school, so I wasn't aware that the person who introduced them all to heroin was a friend of theirs who hung around with them. Apparently, he had difficulties initially getting them to try heroin (every good junky likes to get his friends hooked: it promotes solidarity, and opens opportunities if you're a dealer, as this person was).

But he finally cracked them by using a classic ego-play: "Only stupid people get addicted to heroin".

I had to love a disingenous statement like that: almost a damned lie, almost the complete truth, not quite enough of either. Perfect for fooling the unwise.

The question these people should have asked, but didn't, was, "How do I know I'm a stupid person?"
 
If these describe you, then you are an idiot who can become addicted to drugs.

- You make claims like "I am the Father of Conservative thought" and " I have talent on loan from God"
- You cannot withstand the pressure of having a guest or even an audience with an opinion or political affiliation different from your own
- You have written several books riddled with errors purchased only by people who cannot think for themselves
- You have had a scathing book written about you
- You have recently been called on your racist and hypocritical statements
 
Marijuana, LSD, injected amphetimines a couple of times (I prefer the head highs to the body highs), mushrooms... I think that's about it.

Mind you, I don't party nearly as much as I used to. Last time I smoked was for the Marilyn Manson concert, and it only took one cone to knock me off my feet.
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Marijuana, LSD, injected amphetimines a couple of times (I prefer the head highs to the body highs), mushrooms... I think that's about it.

Mind you, I don't party nearly as much as I used to. Last time I smoked was for the Marilyn Manson concert, and it only took one cone to knock me off my feet.


How old are you? We'd get along, except for the injecting sh!t, im not down with that. How long ago was the Marilyn Manson concert?
 
With all the drugs I've done, I've never been into injecting. I don't particularly like needles, and I've always steered clear of heroin. I'm worried I might like it to much!!
 
Tony said:



How old are you? We'd get along, except for the injecting sh!t, im not down with that. How long ago was the Marilyn Manson concert?

I'm 30. The concert was... erm... Last month. Whenever MM played in Newcastle, Australia. I probably still have the ticket somewhere.


I'm not big on injecting either, that's one of the reasons I gave up speed (you can't really get the kick by drink it or snorting it). Every time I did it, I kept imagining tiny crystals shredding my arteries.
 
KelvinG said:
With all the drugs I've done, I've never been into injecting. I don't particularly like needles, and I've always steered clear of heroin. I'm worried I might like it to much!!

I can think of a lot of reasons not to take heroin, but your reason comes the closest. I read Trainspotting and thought, "This is it! The drug that makes you not give a crap anymore except scoring!" But who wants that kind of life?
 
Everyone around me used drugs growing up, and I never did.
I never have, and I never will. It's just not my style.
 
Both Kevin and I went to raves, I cant speak for him, but I saw plenty of people get whacked out on all kinds of sh!t.
 
I've had friends who used LSD quiet regularly... I've also known a guy from highschool (good old years hehe) that used to take different drugs on regular basis. Quiet a few times he'd get a bad dose and be very sick. The problem with drugs I have is you don't know what's inside them.

Having said that, I have smoked marijuana before but my feelings on it are mixed. I honestly don't see what the big deal is...
 
In a way I regret not having tried LSD,because of the "door-opening of the mind" possibilities but I was always afraid of flipping and climbing the walls. I have tried a few drugs, speed, mushrooms and marijuana[who hasn't?] but these days I am not interested in any illegal drugs, though I do have an unhealthy relationship with a couple of legal ones.

I was an occasional, social marijuana smoker but at some point and for reasons I don't understand it began to make me feel paranoid, which was awful. I think there is such a thing as an addictive personality, a gene which makes certain people susceptible to substance abuse...and some just have a greater need for escape.

Life is easier without addictions...I'd like to shake mine.
 
ImpyTimpy said:
Having said that, I have smoked marijuana before but my feelings on it are mixed. I honestly don't see what the big deal is...
Yeah, that's what I think. These things are bad for people, yet they use them anyway despite the fact that they don't greatly improve the quality of life, and often times, greatly decrease the quality of life.

I have discontinued using nasal snuff and smoking cigarettes, pipe tobacco, and cigars for the reason that I couldn't get over the fear of diseases, even though I was smoking sparingly. I learned a lesson, hypochondria and tobacco don't mix. My paranoia of tobacco related diseases has gotten so bad that I go into a slight state of shock just thinking about tobacco.
 
Tony said:
Both Kevin and I went to raves, I cant speak for him, but I saw plenty of people get whacked out on all kinds of sh!t.

Absolutely. My favourite game to play at a rave was "Guess what he's/she's on."
Of course, not everyone knows what they are on. Unless your absolutely sure of the source of your drug, you could be ingesting something different than what you think.
For instance, a lot of E is cut with speed. Some pills passing as E might be only speed. Or something else, like PCP for instance.
Or, worse yet, it turns out to be nothing at all!
 
JAR said:

Yeah, that's what I think. These things are bad for people, yet they use them anyway despite the fact that they don't greatly improve the quality of life, and often times, greatly decrease the quality of life.

I have discontinued using nasal snuff and smoking cigarettes, pipe tobacco, and cigars for the reason that I couldn't get over the fear of diseases, even though I was smoking sparingly. I learned a lesson, hypochondria and tobacco don't mix. My paranoia of tobacco related diseases has gotten so bad that I go into a slight state of shock just thinking about tobacco.


This article might make you feel better:
Recently interviewed, Sek Yi and his wife Long Ouk, 108, attributed their longevity to a combination of tobacco and prayer.
'World's oldest man' dies

Anyone who's done heroine can tell you it is the mother of all drugs. It is like an instant orgasm. That's what makes it so dangerous, pretty soon you don't care about anything else, especially your own life.
 
So, all you criminals are taking illegal drugs? Don't you know the government has been fighting this "war on drugs" since Nixon? Heck, now you're supporting terrorists. Shame ....

From what I've read on herion (Jim Carroll - Basketball Diaries, John Lydon aka Sid Vicious biography, William Burroughs etc.) the first time you do it, you get horribly sick. After that it's suppose to be blissful and addictive. I can't understand someone doing something that's makes you sick, then returning to it. We really have no clue what is in the drugs and this is especially scary for injectables. In Vancouver over the last few years the herion has been very potent and there have been many overdoses (unintentionial probably).

I've done my share of various drugs. Never injected. I now prefer good hash, good red wine, and quality beer. It irks me that 1/3 of my preferred drugs of choice makes me a criminal.

Charlie (Reagan - tear down this war on drugs) Monoxide
 
Jessica Blue said:
In a way I regret not having tried LSD,because of the "door-opening of the mind" possibilities but I was always afraid of flipping and climbing the walls. I have tried a few drugs, speed, mushrooms and marijuana[who hasn't?] but these days I am not interested in any illegal drugs, though I do have an unhealthy relationship with a couple of legal ones.

'Shrooms are pretty well the same as LSD. though LSD is a bit more tense and nervy it doesny have a 'body load' so you dont feel you are glued to whatever it is you are lying on. I've seen people having a really bad time on hallucinogens, including myself once.

Certain drugs can be a lot of fun when taken responsibly, others are just plain bad.
 

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