How should Pedophiles express their sexuality?

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Pedophiles like sex with minors. Now, I don't approve of this. The minor is not of an age to give informed consent, and ends up scarred for life.

How are they supposed to live with their sexuality? I imagine that they are either taught this by pedophiles who abused them, or are just born that way. Either way, it is something that they want to do. Do we as a society just lock them up for life, chemically or physically castrate them, or what? Many turn out to be repeat offenders.

Is it their fault that they are this way. I believe homosexuals are born that way, but they can find consenting adults, and no one gets hurt, ditto heterosexuals.
 
I don't know about your neck of the woods, but here in the US the Supreme Court has said that child pornography only applies if there's an actual minor involved. Cartoons don't count, CGI girls don't count, adult models dressed as youngsters don't count. So this fantasy type of porn may give them a safe outlet.
 
shanek said:
I don't know about your neck of the woods, but here in the US the Supreme Court has said that child pornography only applies if there's an actual minor involved. Cartoons don't count, CGI girls don't count, adult models dressed as youngsters don't count. So this fantasy type of porn may give them a safe outlet.
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But looking isn't doing, and the CGI is opening up a whole new virtual world of questions.
 
How are they supposed to live with their sexuality? I imagine that they are either taught this by pedophiles who abused them, or are just born that way. Either way, it is something that they want to do. Do we as a society just lock them up for life, chemically or physically castrate them, or what? Many turn out to be repeat offenders.
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And many of them are probably not offenders at all - they just realize that wanting to have sex with kids is not allowing you to do so.

All sexual desires cannot be fullfilled, and many people will know that their sexual fantasies have to stay fantasies.

Is it their fault that they are this way.
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I don't know, but as for living their dreams it doesn't make a difference: They can't.

I find it hard to believe, however, that anyone would want to have sexual fantasies about kids, or corpses, or animals - life is much easier if one's fantasies are about adult members of the opposite sex.
 
Bjorn said:
And many of them are probably not offenders at all - they just realize that wanting to have sex with kids is not allowing you to do so.

All sexual desires cannot be fullfilled, and many people will know that their sexual fantasies have to stay fantasies.

I don't know, but as for living their dreams it doesn't make a difference: They can't.

I find it hard to believe, however, that anyone would want to have sexual fantasies about kids, or corpses, or animals - life is much easier if one's fantasies are about adult members of the opposite sex.
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I can't say I've tried the other ways, but sex with opposite sex is hard enough to handle as it is.
 
Although as usual I'm disturbed by the completely arbitrary way with which this is enforced. If I have sex with a girl on her 18th birthday, that's fine (not that that ever happens to me), but if I have sex with her the day before, I'm a pedophile and guilty of statutory rape.

I'm sorry, but there's just something wrong with that....
 
How many US states have 18 as the age of consent, and in how many of those states is the age difference between the parties a factor in determining whether sex between them constituted statutory rape?
 
shanek said:
Although as usual I'm disturbed by the completely arbitrary way with which this is enforced. If I have sex with a girl on her 18th birthday, that's fine (not that that ever happens to me), but if I have sex with her the day before, I'm a pedophile and guilty of statutory rape.

I'm sorry, but there's just something wrong with that....
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As much as I agree, I tend to think there must be a limit to how young the girl can be if I (and she) claim she wanted it, too.

2 years old? 12? 18? :confused:

Wouldn't one always be able to ask the same question: What about one day earlier.... :eek:
 
shanek said:
Although as usual I'm disturbed by the completely arbitrary way with which this is enforced. If I have sex with a girl on her 18th birthday, that's fine (not that that ever happens to me), but if I have sex with her the day before, I'm a pedophile and guilty of statutory rape.

I'm sorry, but there's just something wrong with that....
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That happens all the time and the law is rarely, if ever, enforced (like the many sodomy laws on the books). Also realize someone would have to know about it, complain to the police AND the minor would have to testify against the "offender" before you could even be prosecuted.

I dated a few 17 year olds while I was 18-20 openly and no one had a problem with it. De jure vs. de facto. Mind you it can be dangerous if someone is determined to get you in trouble or if you break up with the girl and she decides she wants to get even.
 
How should pedophiles express their sexuality? In my ideal, they would all be dead. The behavior of ghosts is something more fit for the paranormal forum.
 
Bjorn said:

I find it hard to believe, however, that anyone would want to have sexual fantasies about kids, or corpses, or animals - life is much easier if one's fantasies are about adult members of the opposite sex.
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Raises an interesting question, are there any people out there that get their jollies from sex with dead, baby animals?
 
shanek said:
Although as usual I'm disturbed by the completely arbitrary way with which this is enforced. If I have sex with a girl on her 18th birthday, that's fine (not that that ever happens to me), but if I have sex with her the day before, I'm a pedophile and guilty of statutory rape.

I'm sorry, but there's just something wrong with that....
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There has to be some limit, but the law has the limitation that it has to express a complex notion in words and absolute terms. It is full of such anomolies, such as abortion/infanticide.
 
a_unique_person said:


Raises an interesting question, are there any people out there that get their jollies from sex with dead, baby animals?
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From my professional experience, which is quite big regarding cases of paedophilia, yes, there are people who enjoy having sex with kids and corpses.

edited to add: Since you asked Unique, according to surveys the games with dead animals include human corpses. Interestingly, people who engage themselves in such practices are paedophiliacs.
 
Cleopatra said:


From my professional experience, which is quite big regarding cases of paedophilia, yes, there are people who enjoy having sex with kids and corpses.

edited to add: Since you asked Unique, according to surveys the games with dead animals include human corpses. Interestingly, people who emgage themselves in such practices there are paedophiliacs.
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I was refering to all three at once, a dead, baby animal. Sorry, my black sense of humour. The subject of pedophilia doesn't get a joke out of me, but the possibility of someone who was weird enough to require it with a dead, young animal?
 
What distinguishes doctors from lawyers is that the later can't get used to crime they way doctors get used to death.

Unique it's ok to have a black humor, I understand but I can't be relaxed with this matter. I think that although I have endless resources of self-sarcasm and humour, when it comes to this subject I loose it all, because people who have dealt with this issue have seen things beyond imagination.

Things that leave you with many questions regarding human nature. (I guess that this explains my attitude towards skeptics who pray as we have discussed to another thread...)

Anyway.

For FYI, it seems that people that enjoy having just ( sic) sex with baby animals don't exist. It seems that their... tastes are more complicated than that.It involves death + something else.

I have wondered myself whether those people have rights as the rest of us. It's not easy to reply to this question and just say " No they need to be executed". It's a matter of philosophy and of the moral values we accept in our society.

I am very sorry to inform you that paedophilia " enjoys" more acceptance ( with tones of guilt involved , of course) in the modern societies that you can possibly imagine.

My explanation? Maturity is not what characterizes modern people.

Renata, I will have a look at this thread and to another one you have proposed during the week-end :)
 
If I wanted to have sex with a creature from another dimension and say tentacles would be a plus and more than eight eyes would be a turn-off, this is not likely to ever happen.

I imagine I would be advised to seek professional help, and that professional help would tell me that they can't change reality, but they can help me change how I feel about reality.


hmmm... how about heterosexual sex with a dead, gay, young animal? Kinky! ;)
 
peptoabysmal said:
If I wanted to have sex with a creature from another dimension and say tentacles would be a plus and more than eight eyes would be a turn-off, this is not likely to ever happen.
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You obviously don't watch much hentai.
 
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