How important is medicinal marijuana?

[Dylab]

I know there are a couple of doctors here and this has bothered me. How important would marijuana be if it was not illegal? Does it deserve the amount of fuss some people argue for it.

 

[hgc]

I'll tell you how important it is. Let me just take my medicine... ah, there. Now what do you want? Hey! Do you ever look at your hand, I mean really close? That's funny. Got anything to eat? I'll take some of that spinach lasagna on white bread. Don't toast it! Geez, what's wrong with you? How about Malomars? Yeah, on the sandwich.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

I think for the most part, that medicinal marijuana is the medicine of choice for pot-heads.. And that is speaking as a reformed semi-pothead...

 

[epepke]

I know there are a couple of doctors here and this has bothered me. How important would marijuana be if it was not illegal? Does it deserve the amount of fuss some people argue for it.

Everything can be declared unimportant so long as there is some other treatment.

For it's anti-emetic properties, I'd say that it's fairly important, because pills take long to work, and it isn't much good if you're just going to puke them up anyway.

For treatment of glaucoma, it probably isn't very important, as the active ingredients can be put in pill form.

 

[cbish]

My question is, "is it really about medicine"?

If it's really about medicine why do the medical marijuana advocates throw a fit when it's suggested that the active ingrediants or combination of active ingrediants be studied so that it can be delivered in a safer way than smoking the raw herb?

I contend that the medicinal approach to legal marijuana is just a smoke screen! (ouch! sorry, sorry, I couldn't help it)

 

[bug_girl]

my sister is in chemo right now, and i have been seriously thinking about taking up.....uh.....herb farming.

You can get prescription pot, but most doctors don't seem to want to give it out, i think mostly from fear of being seen as a dealer.

the most humorous part, i thought, was that they prescribe the THC as a suppository. The whole problem of where to hide your stash--solved!

 

[Mark]

I think for the most part, that medicinal marijuana is the medicine of choice for pot-heads.. And that is speaking as a reformed semi-pothead...

I think you have never watched a loved one suffer the intense misery of chemo-related nausea. It is, quite literally, hell on Earth. Amazing how a "skeptic" web site can be so full of half-baked, ill-informed opinions.

The idea that opiates are legal, while medical marijuana is not just shows how illogical and assinine our culture can be.

If I seem angry, it's because I am.

 

[Suezoled]

I think you have never watched a loved one suffer the intense misery of chemo-related nausea. It is, quite literally, hell on Earth. Amazing how a "skeptic" web site can be so full of half-baked, ill-informed opinions.

The idea that opiates are legal, while medical marijuana is not just shows how illogical and assinine our culture can be.

If I seem angry, it's because I am.

My parents got to see me do that. Mom eventually got a prescription for an anti-nausea drug that was used to treat pregnant women. I was sleeping for hours on end, but it was the only way to stop the cycle of throwing up with dry heaves every half hour or so...

 

[Mark]

My parents got to see me do that. Mom eventually got a prescription for an anti-nausea drug that was used to treat pregnant women. I was sleeping for hours on end, but it was the only way to stop the cycle of throwing up with dry heaves every half hour or so...

How miserable for you and your parents. I hope everything is OK now!

Was the drug Zofran by any chance? My late wife dealt with this for 5 years; Zofran was like a miracle...until she developed a tolerance for it. She had about 17 major sugeries, and none of the pain of recovery was as miserable for her as the nausea. So you, perhaps, can understand my impatience with ignorant twits who object to medical marijuana based on their own ill-informed political agenda.

 

[Suezoled]

How miserable for you and your parents. I hope everything is OK now!

Was the drug Zofran by any chance? My late wife dealt with this for 5 years; Zofran was like a miracle...until she developed a tolerance for it. She had about 17 major sugeries, and none of the pain of recovery was as miserable for her as the nausea. So you, perhaps, can understand my impatience with ignorant twits who object to medical marijuana based on their own ill-informed political agenda.

Oh yes; I've been cancer free for over 10 years now. I don't know what the drug was myself, but I could probably ask and find out.

I thought the active ingredient for marijuana was already found and is used in pill form. I don't know though. I do object to it without a prescription, and I do advocate its use for very carefully controlled use, or there could be problems if someone does develop a tolerance for it. Or even a craving (I also had codeine and tylenol at times for pain, and while it tasted awful, there were times I wasn't in pain but craved that nasty tasting syrup like a man in the desert craves....ice cream).

 

[Mark]

Oh yes; I've been cancer free for over 10 years now. I don't know what the drug was myself, but I could probably ask and find out.

I thought the active ingredient for marijuana was already found and is used in pill form. I don't know though. I do object to it without a prescription, and I do advocate its use for very carefully controlled use, or there could be problems if someone does develop a tolerance for it. Or even a craving (I also had codeine and tylenol at times for pain, and while it tasted awful, there were times I wasn't in pain but craved that nasty tasting syrup like a man in the desert craves....ice cream).

I have no objections to requiring presciptions for controlled use. Just as there are for the opiates (which are chemically very similar to heroin).

 

[GroundStrength]

I think for the most part, that medicinal marijuana is the medicine of choice for pot-heads.. And that is speaking as a reformed semi-pothead...

Are you sure that you didn't mean semi-reformed pothead?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

I think you have never watched a loved one suffer the intense misery of chemo-related nausea. It is, quite literally, hell on Earth. Amazing how a "skeptic" web site can be so full of half-baked, ill-informed opinions.

And smokeable marijuana is the only solution?

And no, I haven't (ever watched a loved one suffer the intense misery of chemo-related nausea. ). However, I wouldn't have a problem trying to aquire and use whatever is necessary to ease my sufferring, or that of a loved one.
That certainly wasn't my point. How long did you watch your loved one suffer before you risked the legal repercussions of providing them with marijuana?

Amazing how a skeptic wouldn't suspect that there might be more potheads who would get excited about more readily available, 'smokeable' marijuana, than would nausea victims.

 

[cbish]

I certainly would not dispute, that for the chemo patient, medical marijuana can be quite beneficial. I do dispute what I preceive as over-prescribing.

Suezoled wrote:

I thought the active ingredient for marijuana was already found and is used in pill form

This is true. However, it doesn't seem to be as effective as the herb. This has lead researchers to believe that there are more chemicals involved that work together. They would like to find out what those are and how they work. That could take a while.

What I, also, object to is that when I mention this to MM advocates, they become irate. This indicates to me that they're not really interested in medicine. They just want it legalized as is.

 

[Mark]

And smokeable marijuana is the only solution?

And no, I haven't (ever watched a loved one suffer the intense misery of chemo-related nausea. ). However, I wouldn't have a problem trying to aquire and use whatever is necessary to ease my sufferring, or that of a loved one.
That certainly wasn't my point. How long did you watch your loved one suffer before you risked the legal repercussions of providing them with marijuana?

Amazing how a skeptic wouldn't suspect that there might be more potheads who would get excited about more readily available, 'smokeable' marijuana, than would nausea victims.

I don't even no where to start.

Well, I never said a single word that objected to finding alternatives to "smokeable" marijuana. There aren't any right now that are nearly as effective, though. And what difference would it make?

I never said I provided my late wife with marijuana. There were reasons why we couldn't. Can you say "lung surgery?"

Where did you ever get the idea that people supporting this therapy are all "potheads?" I don't smoke marijuana; I hate smoke in my lungs. Always have. I support medical marijuana use wholeheartedly; so much for mush brained stereotypes.

Why do you not object to medical heroin? Which is exactly what morphine is.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Why do you not object to medical heroin? Which is exactly what morphine is.

Who said I do object to heroin, medical or otherwise?

What was your point in hitting me with the " watching a loved one suffer " gambit, if smokeable marijuana was not an option in your circumstances?

You sure are stretching to turn this into something personal..

Why did you pick my attempt at humor ( laced with truth ) as opposed to the post above mine, by hgc?


Straighten me out on on what a pothead is really like, as opposed to my stereotype?

 

[Mark]

Who said I do object to heroin, medical or otherwise?

What was your point in hitting me with the " watching a loved one suffer " gambit, if smokeable marijuana was not an option in your circumstances?

You sure are stretching to turn this into something personal..

Why did you pick my attempt at humor ( laced with truth ) as opposed to the post above mine, by hgc?


Straighten me out on on what a pothead is really like, as opposed to my stereotype?

I asked why you don't object to medical heroin.

I "hit you with the loved one gambit" to explain why this is personal for me; plus, to explain that I would have done anything to help her. Who wouldn't?

I guess I missed the humor.

You are stereotyping medical marijuna supporters, not potheads. I said that.

 

[Suezoled]

I certainly would not dispute, that for the chemo patient, medical marijuana can be quite beneficial. I do dispute what I preceive as over-prescribing.

Suezoled wrote:


This is true. However, it doesn't seem to be as effective as the herb. This has lead researchers to believe that there are more chemicals involved that work together. They would like to find out what those are and how they work. That could take a while.

What I, also, object to is that when I mention this to MM advocates, they become irate. This indicates to me that they're not really interested in medicine. They just want it legalized as is.

Could be placebo affect, though... like "look I'm smoking marijuana. It's supposed to relax me and ease my pain and give me cravings for twinkies."

I would like it better if a viable pill form could be taken. All that smoke really is disgusting.

 

[Boo]

The uses for marijuana as a medication has shown. It has it's place in the treatment of chemo related nausea as has already been stated.

I think the reasons that many 'pot heads' that may have never had occaision to require it for treatment support it is that they feel it is a step towards legalization.


Boo

 

[Skeptical Greg]

I asked why you don't object to medical heroin.

I "hit you with the loved one gambit" to explain why this is personal for me; plus, to explain that I would have done anything to help her. Who wouldn't?

I guess I missed the humor.

You are stereotyping medical marijuna supporters, not potheads. I said that.

I was talking about potheads who would like for marijuana to be more readily available.. You turned it into something else...

I don't object to medical heroin.. Why do you ask?