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How Hezbollah Controls The News

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From another thread:
FireGarden said:
I rely on the press of the whole world. I've even quoted Haaretz in this thread.

...These have been seen by the world press. This is not Arab lies. UK Forign minister Kim Howells has seen the destruction. UN's Jan Egeland has seen the destruction. First hand.
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This was in response to my claim that Hezbollah controls the news. From Sunday's CNN show Reliable Sources:
KURTZ: ...Nic Robertson, we were speaking a moment ago about the way journalists cover Hezbollah and some of these tours that Hezbollah officials have arranged of the bomb damage in the areas of Southern Lebanon. You, I believe, got one of those tours.

Isn't it difficult for you as a journalist to independently verify any claims made by Hezbollah, because you're not able to go into the buildings and see whether or not there is any military activity or any weapons being hidden there?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Howard, there's no doubt about it: Hezbollah has a very, very sophisticated and slick media operations. In fact, beyond that, it has very, very good control over its areas in the south of Beirut. They deny journalists access into those areas. They can turn on and off access to hospitals in those areas. They have a lot of power and influence. You don't get in there without their permission.

And when I went we were given about 10 or 15 minutes, quite literally running through a number of neighborhoods that they directed and they took us to.

...But there's no doubt about it. They had control of the situation. They designated the places that we went to, and we certainly didn't have time to go into the houses or lift up the rubble to see what was underneath.
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This is how Hezbollah controls the information. And don't think for a moment that the UN doesn't also get these little guided tours either. AFAIK, nobody goes into the Hezbollah areas w/o a Hezbollah escort. This is why I and others feel the real story is being spun by Hezbollah to suit their purposes.

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I have a friend that lives in Lebanon. He lived in the US for many years, which is when I became his friend. A few years ago he moved back to Lebanon. He's kinda crazy but not Muslim.

When the recent stuff broke out in Lebanon I e-mailed him to see if he was okay and to get his assessment on things. Thankfully he is okay, but he said to me that he has learned that the Jews control the media in the US even more than they used to (when he was in the US we often had discussions on politics and whatnot and he insisted the Jews controlled things) and that if I wanted a more balanced view I should go to the Al Manar website and get their English video news. Al Manar is controlled by Hezbollah. Actually I had seen it a few years ago because he directed it to me when he was in the US and I checked it out then. Needless to say, it wasn't very balanced, to my eyes at least.

This friend of mine is a highly educated person and he really believes that stuff. It's indicative to me of just how high the distrust and paranoia is over there. I don't know how to do it but somehow the west needs to find a better way to fight the war of public opinion in that part of the world.
 
Number Six said:
I have a friend that lives in Lebanon. He lived in the US for many years, which is when I became his friend. A few years ago he moved back to Lebanon. He's kinda crazy but not Muslim.

When the recent stuff broke out in Lebanon I e-mailed him to see if he was okay and to get his assessment on things. Thankfully he is okay, but he said to me that he has learned that the Jews control the media in the US even more than they used to (when he was in the US we often had discussions on politics and whatnot and he insisted the Jews controlled things) and that if I wanted a more balanced view I should go to the Al Manar website and get their English video news. Al Manar is controlled by Hezbollah. Actually I had seen it a few years ago because he directed it to me when he was in the US and I checked it out then. Needless to say, it wasn't very balanced, to my eyes at least.

This friend of mine is a highly educated person and he really believes that stuff. It's indicative to me of just how high the distrust and paranoia is over there. I don't know how to do it but somehow the west needs to find a better way to fight the war of public opinion in that part of the world.
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Well, "the jews" is of course over-broad. Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein are both jewish, yet I think few would saw that they control the media. However, folks of at least a partial jewish background are highly overrepresented in decision making positions in the media. I think it's a fair topic for discussion, and the reason it's not discussed more is probably due in part to their natural desire not to call attention to that fact. Not sure if jews are more overrepresented than people who have partial anglo-elite heritage. Also, now that the internet is increasingly dwarfing all other forms of media, would it be fair to call chinese and indian americans highly overrepresented in decision making positions in the media? Is Jerry Yang the Sulzberger Ochs of the 21st century?
 
It's all good. Israel does something like this. They won't let the camera zoom out to show the actual locale and aid enemy spotters.

/sarcasm
 
Dave1001 said:
However, folks of at least a partial jewish background are highly overrepresented in decision making positions in the media.
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:rolleyes:

First the bit about "real" Holocaust "skepticism," and now this.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....
 
On the matter of the topic, "the news" is rather broad. Hizballah does not control AlJazeera, CNN, or Fox News. Saying that "Hizballah controls the News" is overreaching. Yes, Hizballah controls AlManar. Nothing new there. And sure, Hizballah runs tours--hey, everyone does that, yes, including Israel. Ditto for spin.

But "Hizballah controls the news" is just as silly as the claim "the Jews control the media." They could have as slick a media operation as they come, they could spin left and right, but saying they "control the news" is just outlandish.

I suppose claiming they "control the news" is a nice, neat way of dismissing Lebanese casualities as "enemy propaganda" or some such. On a factual basis, however, the claim is spurious at best.
 
Israel doesn't have spin doctors? In-bedded reporters? (correct spelling)

I have heard channel 4 in the UK say there are reporting restrictions in Israel. Understandable. You wouldn't want Hezbollah finding out from channel4 where Israel's military installations are or which of their rockets came close.

But when Hezbollah try to limit Israel finding out how good its intelligence is -- who among their informants are providing good intel, and who aren't -- this is underhand.

Hezbollah controls the world's media! They limit what journalists can see in Lebanon. In all of Lebanon! They control the washington post, the BBC, even parts of Haaretz!

Amazing!

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At the beginning of this war, both the BBC and channel 4 were conducting interviews with Israelis on the beach. Sunbathing refugees of war. I haven't seen that lately. I guess it plays badly against interviews with refugees in Lebanon.

Hezbollah's control of the media is complete!
 
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Aside from screwy reporting of casualty figures, it is good to remember that Islamic terrorist organizations are not above faking the news completely.
 
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Cleon said:
On the matter of the topic, "the news" is rather broad. Hizballah does not control AlJazeera, CNN, or Fox News. Saying that "Hizballah controls the News" is overreaching. Yes, Hizballah controls AlManar. Nothing new there. And sure, Hizballah runs tours--hey, everyone does that, yes, including Israel. Ditto for spin.

But "Hizballah controls the news" is just as silly as the claim "the Jews control the media." They could have as slick a media operation as they come, they could spin left and right, but saying they "control the news" is just outlandish.

I suppose claiming they "control the news" is a nice, neat way of dismissing Lebanese casualities as "enemy propaganda" or some such. On a factual basis, however, the claim is spurious at best.
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I agree

However, isn't it really about who controls/feeds/creates the information that flows through the media?
 
WildCat said:
This is how Hezbollah controls the information. And don't think for a moment that the UN doesn't also get these little guided tours either. AFAIK, nobody goes into the Hezbollah areas w/o a Hezbollah escort. This is why I and others feel the real story is being spun by Hezbollah to suit their purposes.
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How is this different from the US Military controlling the information during the Gulf War and the War in Iraq?
 
CFLarsen said:
How is this different from the US Military controlling the information during the Gulf War and the War in Iraq?
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I would imagine none. I thought it was common knowledge that "embedded" journalists get the information the military want them to have, and further suffer from being too close to one side of what they are reporting. So, the same sceptical eye is needed.

However, as far as I know, journalists could at their own risk report independently and collect their own information.
 
CFLarsen said:
How is this different from the US Military controlling the information during the Gulf War and the War in Iraq?
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Are there journalists embedded w/ Hezbollah on the front lines? Reporting how they're firing missiles from residential neighborhoods? I don't even see how the 2 are remotely comparable. Journalists in the last Gulf War had unprecedented access, live video from the front lines. And apart from giving exact troop locations, could pretty much report anything they wanted.
 
FireGarden said:
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At the beginning of this war, both the BBC and channel 4 were conducting interviews with Israelis on the beach. Sunbathing refugees of war. I haven't seen that lately. I guess it plays badly against interviews with refugees in Lebanon.

Hezbollah's control of the media is complete!
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I wasn't aware that the beaches in the north were in the war zone... :rolleyes:
 
WildCat said:
Reporting how they're firing missiles from residential neighborhoods?
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You have to smuggle pictures of Hezbollah "in action" out of Lebanon.

July 30, 2006 12:00am

Photos that damn Hezbollah

The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.
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(emphasis mine)
 
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