Hospital Psychologist uses 'Witchcraft'

[bmillsap]

Link (probably requires registration):

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050502witchcraft,1,1967300.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Highlights:

"The suits alleged Libman used tarot cards, pentagrams and love potions in therapy."

"One suit alleges that the Libman asked a client to submit DNA samples of her husband she was divorcing so the therapist could cast a spell on him. Another suit accuses Libman of instructing a man to speak with dead people and that, instead of using prescribed medications, he should smoke Native American herbs."

"The suits also accused Libman of telling one patient the two of them had been brought to earth in a spacecraft and that they were superior beings; offering to teach a patient how to make witches' talisman with the client's own blood, and advising two female patients they were the "chosen ones" of the witches."

 

[pyewhackett]

Sounds like this psychologist needs a psychiatrist!

I know that in some regional hospitals in Australia, some hospital staff will allow 'medicine men' to visit with Indigenous patients, purely for psychological reasons - not for therapy!

Interesting article...and scary!


Karen.

 

[Dancing David]

Sounds like they violated the oath
"to not use the mystic arts to impress foolish people".

I sure don't remeber the space ship ride!

 

[songstress]

Story

Whatever the truth of this story, anyone who offers to cast spells on another is asking for trouble. People can't just walk into hospitals and pubs looking for witches to cast spells. One has to move in the right circles.

I know two fully-fledged 'real' witches. Neither of them would ever attempt something as foolish as this, especially in their places of work.

The mind boggles.

Patsy.

 

[songstress]

Story

Sorry-

'Chosen one of the witches.' What on Earth does that mean?

Unfortunately, the 'craft is riven with egos. It's not meant to be like that, but it is.

This sounds like a classic example of an ego-driven woman. I notice that the 'spaceship' scenario is making a reappearance.

Patsy.

 

[Yaotl]

Re: Story

I know two fully-fledged 'real' witches. Neither of them would ever attempt something as foolish as this, especially in their places of work.

For fear of being found a fraud?

 

[Luke T.]

Re: Story

I notice that the 'spaceship' scenario is making a reappearance.

Patsy.

Market research revealed that broomsticks are too retro.

 

[Ashles]

Re: Story

I know two fully-fledged 'real' witches. Neither of them would ever attempt something as foolish as this, especially in their places of work.

Sorry to sound a bit sceptically, but what does it mean to be a 'fully-fledged real' witch?

What would be the difference between one of those and a normal everyday average girl who merely said "I am a witch"?

And why would their behaviour at work be of any practical worth as comparison to this person?

Do they believe they can actually cast magical spells?

 

[treble_head]

Well, obviously you don't know so much. Obviously these full fleged real witches have graduated from Wicca-TECH, with a degree in Tarot, Drum-Circlism, Hokum, Gun Smithing or even getting their GED. "Thank you, Wicca-TECH, I'm not just a warlock, I'm also a graduate of DeVry!"

Classes include "Dressing in Black - 102", 'Believing the Earth Gives a Damned About Me - 203" and "Ticking off my Parents - 101"

Why must you dismiss these highly accredited professionals? Shame on you. Well, I have to go. I need to get back to my homework for "Explaining why dudes should be allowed to wear black nailpolish - 201"

 

[chillzero]

Well, obviously you don't know so much. Obviously these full fleged real witches have graduated from Wicca-TECH, with a degree in Tarot, Drum-Circlism, Hokum, Gun Smithing or even getting their GED. "Thank you, Wicca-TECH, I'm not just a warlock, I'm also a graduate of DeVry!"

Classes include "Dressing in Black - 102", 'Believing the Earth Gives a Damned About Me - 203" and "Ticking off my Parents - 101"

Why must you dismiss these highly accredited professionals? Shame on you. Well, I have to go. I need to get back to my homework for "Explaining why dudes should be allowed to wear black nailpolish - 201"

reminds me of my ex.... black nailpolish and blue lipstick... red and black hair, waistlength.

 

[Skepiroth]

burn her at the stake

 

[Bronze Dog]

Make sure she weighs less than a duck, first, though. We have to stick with the ways of science, of course.

 

[pyewhackett]

Make sure she weighs less than a duck, first, though. We have to stick with the ways of science, of course.

You're so behind on the scientific method. Nowadays, we drop 'em in the water...if they float, they are a witch! Then we burn 'em. Should they sink and drown, they are innocent. We will exonerate them posthumously, of course...

 

[Bronze Dog]

You're so behind on the scientific method. Nowadays, we drop 'em in the water...if they float, they are a witch! Then we burn 'em. Should they sink and drown, they are innocent. We will exonerate them posthumously, of course...

You're the one who's behind. Witches burn. Wood burns. Wood floats on water. Ducks float on water. Anything that weighs less than a duck will float on water. Therefore, if she weighs less than a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore a witch.

(Surprising that there's someone who didn't catch a Monty Python reference.)

 

[pyewhackett]

You're the one who's behind. Witches burn. Wood burns. Wood floats on water. Ducks float on water. Anything that weighs less than a duck will float on water. Therefore, if she weighs less than a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore a witch.

(Surprising that there's someone who didn't catch a Monty Python reference.)

How dare you! I'm a Python fan going waaaay back!

I was just being contrary.

(Surprising that you would think I didn't catch the reference).

 

[sophia8]

Back to the OP.....

....and note the use of the words "alleged", "alleges" and "accuse".
In other words, it's this one patient's accusations.

 

[pyewhackett]

Re: Back to the OP.....

....and note the use of the words "alleged", "alleges" and "accuse".
In other words, it's this one patient's accusations.

That's terminology they'll always use during a trial.

There are multiple suits. Not to mention that the woman resigned.

 

[Luke T.]

You're the one who's behind. Witches burn. Wood burns. Wood floats on water. Ducks float on water. Anything that weighs less than a duck will float on water.

Like very small rocks. And cherries.

Therefore, if she weighs less than a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore a witch.

It's a fair cop.

 

[songstress]

Yaotl,

No, not for 'being found a fraud', but for bringing their religion into the workplace.

Why is it that as soon as someone mentions 'mediums' or 'witches' the word 'fraud' often follows without having known or met the people concerned?

I thought that you were free-thinking people?

Patsy.

 

[Ashles]

No, not for 'being found a fraud', but for bringing their religion into the workplace.

Why is it that as soon as someone mentions 'mediums' or 'witches' the word 'fraud' often follows without having known or met the people concerned?

Well with mediums, most people here do not believe that the mefiums are really in contact with the deceased.
However they get paid money to contact the deceased.
When you charge people money for a service you can't provide that's fraud.

But I don't know why Witches would be considered fraudulent any more than Buddhists, Christians or Scientologists.

Maybe it's that Witches claim to be able to cast magic spells and stuff when fairly obviously they can't.
But as they don't seem to generally charge for the service then this isn't really fraud per se.