Hillary Clinton is Done: Part 5 (The Doniest)

[theprestige]

This is the continuation of Part 4.

Posted By: Loss Leader

Who's upset? I just find it hilarious that the very people who insist that she's done just can't let her go, and then they blame their inability to do so on the fact that as a public figure for decades she's still talked about from time to time.

Who's insisting she's done?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Who's insisting she's done?

It seems some people still remember (against their will) that the first three installments of this thread were purely insisting that the very idea of her being done was ridiculous, with the bottom feeders spamming the thread with "Is she done yet?" every other day.

It still hurts a lot, it appears.

 

[Marcus]

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/royorbison/crying.html

Hey- for those who just can't let go- it's no use to stay obsessed- Hillary's moved on and you've got to too! I know it's tough right now believing this, but she's just not for you. Come on- there are lots of other, active politicians in the sea; just get out more, meet some of them, and one day you learn to feel about one of them as you now feel about Hillary. You'll even look back and find your current anguish over a hopeless, long dead relationship funny.

It's kind of like sports really. Watching a game is more fun if you are rooting for a player or team, but disliking a player or team can also make a game fun to watch. In the same way, even though I'm not a Republican, I never liked Hillary, so it's fun following her train wreck of a career.

 

[Childlike Empress]

To remind us of what Trump was up against, just armed with a flag...

 

[Giordano]

I see that the thread has devolved again into nothing but complaining about the thread.

Just another flavor of “leave Hillary alone.”

Nope- absolutely the wrong guess as to my motivation. Ha, I have no sympathy for Ms. Clinton and my views of the thread do not originate in any way from a defensive "leave Hillary alone" perspective. Hillary is done. She would have long ago passed out of the public's eye, except the Hillary bashers keep her alive and visible while at the same time complaining about it.

I understand why Trump seeks to keep her the Emmanuel Goldstein Two-Minute Hate target, but this is such a transparent and embarrassingly political ploy! I am not concerned that a dead horse suffers from being beaten; buy into the Hillary bashing and whip and kick the horse as many times as you wish if it makes you happy... I am simply saying that the whole exercise is a waste of time and a major distraction from time better spent on discussions of more important, current, and relevant political topics. But then again that is exactly what Trump and the Republican party seek...

 

[The Big Dog]

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/royorbison/crying.html

Hey- for those who just can't let go- it's no use to stay obsessed- Hillary's moved on and you've got to too! I know it's tough right now believing this, but she's just not for you. Come on- there are lots of other, active politicians in the sea; just get out more, meet some of them, and one day you learn to feel about one of them as you now feel about Hillary. You'll even look back and find your current anguish over a hopeless, long dead relationship funny.

Nope- absolutely the wrong guess as to my motivation. Ha, I have no sympathy for Ms. Clinton and my views of the thread do not originate in any way from a defensive "leave Hillary alone" perspective. Hillary is done. She would have long ago passed out of the public's eye, except the Hillary bashers keep her alive and visible while at the same time complaining about it.

I understand why Trump seeks to keep her the Emmanuel Goldstein Two-Minute Hate target, but this is such a transparent and embarrassingly political ploy! I am not concerned that a dead horse suffers from being beaten; buy into the Hillary bashing and whip and kick the horse as many times as you wish if it makes you happy... I am simply saying that the whole exercise is a waste of time and a major distraction from time better spent on discussions of more important, current, and relevant political topics. But then again that is exactly what Trump and the Republican party seek...

Ya here that folks, Hillary bashers are making Hillary not shut the **** up.

And it ain’t about leave Hillary alone, it is about bu-bu-but Trump!

Plus we can only talk about one thing at a time.

Fantastic.

 

[Giordano]

Ya here that folks, Hillary bashers are making Hillary not shut the **** up.

And it ain’t about leave Hillary alone, it is about bu-bu-but Trump!

Plus we can only talk about one thing at a time.

Fantastic.

Believe it or not, I'm just trying to help the Hillary bashers: the intensity of their hatred is such that I wonder if it is unhealthy for the bearer. I also feel bad for those among them who are otherwise well-intentioned but who have fallen prey to this cynical political manipulation and are being exploited by it.

However, if I suppress these natural, altruistic wishes to bring serenity and peace of mind to all with whom I interact, I am in fact often pleased to see the bashers waste their time by this venting on a deceased equine. Sure, we all can talk about more than one thing at a time, but one does not have an infinite amount of time or energy or thought. Or even hate. One must prioritize if one wishes to formulate and present opinions clearly and convincingly. And one can loss credibility by railing too much on a moot and meaningless topic. For these reasons the list of things on which I pontificate doesn't include the ways my girlfriend of 1972 "done me wrong."

 

[Giordano]

I am enormously cynical and would be the last person on Earth to embrace kittens, Hallmark cards, or... Hillary. For most of my life people who spoke of love and universal brotherhood seemed embarrassingly naive to me and I prided myself on being hard core. But at long last, after many decades of experience, I have finally made an observation that I see as an absolute truth: one should not embrace viewpoints that are motivated by hatred. Such viewpoints do not lead us toward the goal of becoming better individuals or achieving a better society. They may feel good for awhile, but they leave terrible hangovers. Which is one reason I am bugged by Hillary bashing.

No charge for the philosophy.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Kudos to the mod team's great thread titles.

 

[Trebuchet]

Kudos to the mod team's great thread titles.

Don-iest?

 

[Childlike Empress]

The Doniest People's Republic. That's where Killary is president.

 

[Toontown]

Yes, it is sad that a small cadre of Killery-bashers continue to dance silly little jigs around her mummified corpse, in the pathetically misguided belief that, in doing so, they are hurting the feelings of Hillary's die-hard followers.

In reality, Hillary had precious few die-hard followers, even in her heyday. Most of those who voted for Hillary did so in rational recognition of the fact that Hillary was a lesser evil than...

DONAMIR PUTINTRUMP, absolute composite ruler of @200 million devoted Putrumpkins.

http://nancyburson.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Trump_Putin_High_Res.jpg

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[mgidm86]

Yes, it is sad that a small cadre of Killery-bashers continue to dance silly little jigs around her mummified corpse, in the pathetically misguided belief that, in doing so, they are hurting the feelings of Hillary's die-hard followers.

In reality, Hillary had precious few die-hard followers, even in her heyday. Most of those who voted for Hillary did so in rational recognition of the fact that Hillary was a lesser evil than...

DONAMIR PUTINTRUMP, absolute composite ruler of @200 million devoted Putrumpkins.

Funny because I seem to remember Hillary being the only Democratic candidate pushed by the DNC, and the only one with any chance of winning the nomination out of the few who even ran.

All of this happened before Trump was seen as having any chance of winning the nomination at all, so the "battling evil Trump with Hillary" is not true.

She got the nomination overwhelmingly and there was never any doubt she would. Someone sure liked her.

"We didn't really like her anyways". Heck of a campaign strategy.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Funny because I seem to remember Hillary being the only Democratic candidate pushed by the DNC, and the only one with any chance of winning the nomination out of the few who even ran.

All of this happened before Trump was seen as having any chance of winning the nomination at all, so the "battling evil Trump with Hillary" is not true.

She got the nomination overwhelmingly and there was never any doubt she would. Someone sure liked her.

"We didn't really like her anyways". Heck of a campaign strategy.

I suggest at you remember incorrectly. The DNC has no function is pushing any candidate, and nor are they able to do so.

The worst that is able to be said is that some members of the DNC favoured Hillary to win, but such was kept to internal discourse and only occurred prior to other candidates officially entering the race, or after Hillary was clearly going to win based on the nominated delegates.

The DNC have no mechanisms to influence the primaries. They don't control the State branches of the party, they don't control the Supers, they don't control the electors. They have nothing to do with funding during the primaries, not in advertising or campaign management.

Their job prior to the Convention is to file paperwork, which they did equally for both sides, even making sure that late submissions by Bernie's team didn't disqualify him from several ballots as it should have by law, and organising the Convention itself. It's not until after the convention that they are opened up to pushing their candidate and helping the primary winning campaign.

Bernie's big problems were nothing to do with the DNC, it was a failure to get his message to resonate with the mainstream Democrat voter. He also failed to woo the supers, even failing to send them materials when they requested it, but rather attacking them for their choosing someone that they knew well and who had been with the party for the vast majority of her life, over someone that they didn't know, whose campaign didn't seem that interested in getting them on his side, instead they spent far more time complaining about them which likely turned them off even more.

 

[Trebuchet]

Yes, it is sad that a small cadre of Killery-bashers continue to dance silly little jigs around her mummified corpse, in the pathetically misguided belief that, in doing so, they are hurting the feelings of Hillary's die-hard followers.

In reality, Hillary had precious few die-hard followers, even in her heyday. Most of those who voted for Hillary did so in rational recognition of the fact that Hillary was a lesser evil than...

DONAMIR PUTINTRUMP, absolute composite ruler of @200 million devoted Putrumpkins.

[qimg]http://nancyburson.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Trump_Putin_High_Res.jpg[/qimg]

Couldn't you have found a bigger picture for them?

 

[CapelDodger]

Kudos to the mod team's great thread titles.

Seconded.

 

[CapelDodger]

It's kind of like sports really. Watching a game is more fun if you are rooting for a player or team, but disliking a player or team can also make a game fun to watch.

In Wales people traditionally support two teams : Wales, and whoever's playing England. As you can imagine, things get pretty intense when Wales is playing England.

(Derail, I know, but ffs, why not?)

 

[CapelDodger]

Bernie's big problems were nothing to do with the DNC, it was a failure to get his message to resonate with the mainstream Democrat voter. He also failed to woo the supers, even failing to send them materials when they requested it, but rather attacking them for their choosing someone that they knew well and who had been with the party for the vast majority of her life, over someone that they didn't know, whose campaign didn't seem that interested in getting them on his side, instead they spent far more time complaining about them which likely turned them off even more.

Sanders also suffered from the received wisom that a self-proclaimed godless socialist would be a suicidal choice for candidate.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Sanders also suffered from the received wisom that a self-proclaimed godless socialist would be a suicidal choice for candidate.

I think that qualifies under "failure to get his message to resonate with the mainstream Democrat voter."

 

[Foolmewunz]

I suggest at you remember incorrectly. The DNC has no function is pushing any candidate, and nor are they able to do so.

The worst that is able to be said is that some members of the DNC favoured Hillary to win, but such was kept to internal discourse and only occurred prior to other candidates officially entering the race, or after Hillary was clearly going to win based on the nominated delegates.

The DNC have no mechanisms to influence the primaries. They don't control the State branches of the party, they don't control the Supers, they don't control the electors. They have nothing to do with funding during the primaries, not in advertising or campaign management.

Their job prior to the Convention is to file paperwork, which they did equally for both sides, even making sure that late submissions by Bernie's team didn't disqualify him from several ballots as it should have by law, and organising the Convention itself. It's not until after the convention that they are opened up to pushing their candidate and helping the primary winning campaign.

Bernie's big problems were nothing to do with the DNC, it was a failure to get his message to resonate with the mainstream Democrat voter. He also failed to woo the supers, even failing to send them materials when they requested it, but rather attacking them for their choosing someone that they knew well and who had been with the party for the vast majority of her life, over someone that they didn't know, whose campaign didn't seem that interested in getting them on his side, instead they spent far more time complaining about them which likely turned them off even more.

Can we stop being quite so Pollyanna-ish? The DNC favored Clinton, but by default. O'Malley was never on the radar but had he developed any sort of following, they would've gotten behind him. If Biden had chosen to run, there would've been a serious firefight, not dissimilar to Obama usurping Hillary's coronation in '08. But Bernie was a DINENO, a Democrat in not even name only. He was never taken seriously because he didn't have a prayer and even when he showed any sort of strength, big meetings on the quad, vocal minorities running roughshod over caucuses and internet armies... was all a little too Ron Paul. Horrible signal:noise ratio.

The DNC is not the United Nations. They are out to get Democratic Party wins. They didn't, honestly, think they could win with Sanders.

But we've been through this thing of "hard" vs "soft" support for Hillary. Many progressives and lefties (like myself) supported Clinton grudgingly because since 2000 it has become apparent that the Republicans need to be stopped. Anyone who doubted that has to just see what's crawled out from under the rocks since Trump's kleptokrat klan got elected. We had a real prominent conservative on these boards who tried to sell us that checks and balances would protect us from Trump. Yeah, sure. When hell freezes over.