Hello; Banned at Loose Change

RAMS

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Hello Everyone,

Have been lurking here for a week readin and now am a member. Great site.

It took 3 days, but got banned this afternoon from Loose Change for posing what follows below in the two valid questions I presented many times with no reply, per se. One of the mods did respond well, but at the end of the response it had to be invalidated with 'its all a lie anway':


1. NIST had some of the WTC Tower wreckage, did they test for explosive residue? It was their job to investigate the collapses... surely they would have tested for explosive residue, yes? And, too bad that Giuliani had all the other evidence destroyed, so that no one else could test for this residue.

2. Rammypoo... actually... let me turn this around on you. You are making the claim that WTC 7 fell because of fire, yes? Now... you need to back up your claim by linking to just one resource that shows a steel-structured skyscraper fully collapsing due to fire.

My claim is that pre-planted explosives were used to bring down WTC 7... and here's my resource for a steel-structured skyscraper fully collapsing due to pre-planted explosives: xxx no url xxxxxx
You stated on the other forum, at JREF

xxx no url xxxxx

how incredibly polite and kind and formal you are and wish no diress. "Rammypoo"? Great start--conspiracy cultists are all the same.

You also categorically present a direct question, that is valid.

There has been no 100 plus story high rise in the history of the world that has ever been failed due to fire exclusively. Never. Not even WTC-1, WTC-2.

To answer your question directly, where are the airliner impacts on the demo building in this YouTube video you have provided?

Now, without insults, further.....

Others are watchng here. The point of proof is in your court to the following questions. Please address them. From anyone. They are also fair. They require no documentation, only a little work in each, since the net seems to be everyone's source, on both sides of the coin on this subject. I believe that is fair in any venue.

Please address these;

1. Please provide any link available, with any search engine, of trace explosive residue of any kind found on anything at the entire WTC complex related to the day of failure for all three structures. This way, no one is cornered or has to defend oneself on a personal level.

2. Please provide any link whereby any tall highrise was hit and survived an impact by a modern commerical jet liner at 500mph with an impact ratio translation of some 88,405 tons, plus fuel and all other combustibles combined.

I have answered your questions directly, with no insults or truculence. I expect the same. Please answer mine. I will also cut and paste your post here, over there (JREF) for their inspection as well.

Thank you in advance.


Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold-the-rage dot com
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel

(Cultist are all the same. Went through this with Art Bell and his bunch over defending NASA on his radio show...... got sued by him for $60,000,000. Typical.

Thank you all for having me here.)
 
Welcome aboard!

Getting banned for being reasonable at Loose Change forums is par for the course.
 
Hello Everyone,

Have been lurking here for a week readin and now am a member. Great site.

It took 3 days, but got banned this afternoon from Loose Change for posing what follows below in the two valid questions I presented many times with no reply, per se. One of the mods did respond well, but at the end of the response it had to be invalidated with 'its all a lie anway':



You stated on the other forum, at JREF

xxx no url xxxxx

how incredibly polite and kind and formal you are and wish no diress. "Rammypoo"? Great start--conspiracy cultists are all the same.

You also categorically present a direct question, that is valid.

There has been no 100 plus story high rise in the history of the world that has ever been failed due to fire exclusively. Never. Not even WTC-1, WTC-2.

To answer your question directly, where are the airliner impacts on the demo building in this YouTube video you have provided?

Now, without insults, further.....

Others are watchng here. The point of proof is in your court to the following questions. Please address them. From anyone. They are also fair. They require no documentation, only a little work in each, since the net seems to be everyone's source, on both sides of the coin on this subject. I believe that is fair in any venue.

Please address these;

1. Please provide any link available, with any search engine, of trace explosive residue of any kind found on anything at the entire WTC complex related to the day of failure for all three structures. This way, no one is cornered or has to defend oneself on a personal level.

2. Please provide any link whereby any tall highrise was hit and survived an impact by a modern commerical jet liner at 500mph with an impact ratio translation of some 88,405 tons, plus fuel and all other combustibles combined.

I have answered your questions directly, with no insults or truculence. I expect the same. Please answer mine. I will also cut and paste your post here, over there (JREF) for their inspection as well.

Thank you in advance.


Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold-the-rage dot com
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel

(Cultist are all the same. Went through this with Art Bell and his bunch over defending NASA on his radio show...... got sued by him for $60,000,000. Typical.

Thank you all for having me here.)
Hi RAMS, and welcome! Glad to have you here.

Ol' 28K is well known around these parts. I had quite a few exchanges with him, before he started putting everyone on 'ignore'.

Just hope you enjoy lively conversation. There's plenty here!
 
Ol' 28K is well known around these parts. I had quite a few exchanges with him, before he started putting everyone on 'ignore'.


Ah, the good old days! I should get another account at LCF just to post him a picture of my new cat!
 
Welcome aboard!

Getting banned for being reasonable at Loose Change forums is par for the course.

I haven't been, but then I haven't bothered joining them, can't see the point. If I wanted nuts, I can buy them at the local supermarket.
 
Mmm - I was following your thread over at Loose Change. Bravo for not only sticking to your guns, but for actually answering the questions that were asked of you.

Unfortunately I missed the moderator's reply to you, and that thread has been deleted - who was it and what did they say?

By the by...28th Kingdom is crazy. Like, fruitloops crazy. Just be thankful you've never dealt with Christophera...
 
It took 3 days, but got banned this afternoon from Loose Change


Welcome and congratulations. You deserve the Merit of Endurance award. Most of us last less than 3 posts over there. Oliver, can you get this guy his well deserved trophy?
 
Welcome and congratulations. You deserve the Merit of Endurance award. Most of us last less than 3 posts over there. Oliver, can you get this guy his well deserved trophy?

Hey, do I get that award too? Or do I have to wait until I'm banned, if I'm banned?

I'm up to 201 posts over there, which is more than I thought I'd get to. But I've always been polite and made sure not to troll, so I guess that my post-span there has been extended indefinately.
 
Mmm - I was following your thread over at Loose Change. Bravo for not only sticking to your guns, but for actually answering the questions that were asked of you.

Unfortunately I missed the moderator's reply to you, and that thread has been deleted - who was it and what did they say?

By the by...28th Kingdom is crazy. Like, fruitloops crazy. Just be thankful you've never dealt with Christophera...
Thank you all for the warm welcome and good words.

Responding to the post above, thank you for your words of praise. It was quickly apparent at LC on the first day that when there was nothing but noise and insults upon the question about just providing one link regarding explosvie traces on WTC debris, and for links on data concerning survival of large structures after immense trauma impact, I realized the whole conspiracy concerning 911 game is fruitless.

Without data on those key pieces of the event, it is akin to the UFO freaks espousing about how NASA is hiding aliens and has discovered secret alien bases on the Moon and Mars.

The one mod, was the only one that responded kindly and with hard data, but had to add that the NIBS report was a violation of several statues since no known investigation on trace explosives was entrained after 911 (not true).

But for the most part the whole bunch is frothing at the mouth psycho, ensconced with paranoia behind every stone. I even saw the same syntax, feelings over substance, truculence over reason as I saw in the UFO world of conspiracy.

Frankly, this exploitive fringe element devoid of critical thinking is questionable if they are even part of the same DNA as the rest of us.

I was banned from over 40 sites in the UFO days, and had 5 websites pulled down by Art Bell till the FBI stepped in and put a stop to it.

I see the same fervor of insanity in this bunch as the former.

Suffice to say, I wish one link to a site with emperical data of explosive traces found anywhere in the aftermath of the WTC reviron.

Too, one link to any high rise structure that was impacted by a 153+ton air vehicle at 500+ mph and then survive.

Such wonder, in the darker angels of men's hosts......

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold the rage dot com
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
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To be fair, I did recommend that 28 Tourettes Kongdom and a few others who were frothing at the mouth, 0-Dark-Hundred psycho, to perhaps get some time for rest and R&R at Shady Pines, for the incurably insane.

I'm certain that loving and most thoughtful recommendation on my part did not fair as well as hoped.

However, any cult following, once banning begins (book burning?....) is the paramount of utter psychologic paranoia. Coupled with the complete and total lack of any sort of technical data in concert with the absent ability to formulate a complete sentence, and viola, maddness entrains.

Again, such wonder.

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold the rage
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
Welcome aboard, rams. It took me 17 minutes to get banned there. I think pretty much every other of us has been banned. Some few brave souls have maintained their position there. Yesterday I got also banned at prisonplanet.com. Don't we like the truth movement that is based on cersorship?
 
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Welcome aboard, rams. It took me 17 minutes to get banned there. I think pretty much every other of us has been banned. Some few brave souls have maintained their position there. Yesterday I got also banned at prisonpanet.com. Don't we like the truth movement that is based on cersorship?

Its laughable, but in a way, with this new medium we find ourselves (the net) it has produced a frothing bunch of tinfoil hat wearers, tongue hanging out the side of their mouths, banging on that $3 keyboard, espousing the most innane psycho babble and disinfo the world has ever seen.

I will go to prison planet now, join, and then produce a countdown of T-2 hours until mission failure with loss of vehicle, mission, and crew (otherwise known as banning).

NAZIs, all of them......Geobbles would have been so proud.

Good post.

Robert
 
I will go to prison planet now, join, and then produce a countdown of T-2 hours until mission failure with loss of vehicle, mission, and crew (otherwise known as banning).

You can't join there, but there is a comments section attached to each story. I got banned by the webmaster for telling a truthful comment and I can no longer comment there.
 
Welcome Rams, great questions. Shame the people at LCF cant accept a challenge.
 
Welcome Rams, great questions. Shame the people at LCF cant accept a challenge.

Thank you for the warm welcome.

Yes, you'd think since the issue is non technical, non personal, and just a little time doing searches, that somewhere, in all the millions of posts and sites concerning 911, there would be just one emperical item for finding explosive traces in the WTC wreckage.

Same for the building survival question.

The most glaring omission of everything concerning the conspiracy cultists of 911 is that the events of 911, in toto, are unprecedented ever in the history of man. There is simply nothing to compare it to. And why there seems to be such negligence on the part of our government.

Odd, such misconception married to denial.

Robert
 
That sounds incredibly perverse.

That is funny. My typo errors, of course. I was going to go back and change it, but no, it is good to see flaws and screwups in all these apparently big time 'know it alls'...........

hee hee

Good response, west.

Robert
 

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