H5N1 Virus Found in Stone Marten

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The H5N1 "bird flu" virus has spread to mammals - cats, and now a stone marten found on an island in northern Germany. They prey on infected birds and catch the virus, apparently.

My dad sent this along since I keep pet ferrets and I have a thing for mustelids.

Canada.com story is the one my dad sent. Also there is a good Forbes.com story.
 
*sigh* Just a matter of time until it makes the critical mutation it needs to jump from non-avian mammals to other non-avian mammals. Time for Captain Trips.
 
Uh- aren't all mammals sort of "non - avian"?

ETA- Anything that kills cats can't be all bad...
 
This was in an update received tonight from Pro-Med.

The updated list of animal species (mammalian) known to be susceptible to infection by the HPAI H5N1 virus is accessible at:

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/disease_information/avian_influenza/affected_species_chart.jsp

(Note that the list must be scrolled through).

The 9 mammals reported include: Palm Civet, domestic
cat/feral cat, Cynomolgus macaque, ferret, New Zealand white rabbit, leopard, tiger, rat and pig.

The addition of the Stone Marten would bring the total to 10.

Keep scrolling for avian species.
 
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Speaking of the bird flu, did anybody see the ABC news piece about Dr. Webster? He gives it even odds that H5N1 mutates into a form easily transmitted between people. He says society may have to face the possibility of fifty percent of the population dying.

Is this it? Is this the end? Should I quit my job and just get drunk all day?

Is there some sort of mainstream scientific opinion about this virus?
 
He gives it even odds that H5N1 mutates into a form easily transmitted between people.
As a general rule, virologists are rather reluctant to attempt to make projections beyond what they can support with good evidence, and I think Dr. Webster's statements illustrate why; though the wording he chose suggests that he was speaking somewhat off-the-cuff, his remarks are subject to over-interpretation, and have been widely broadcast. As one of the world's leading authorities on influenza, I'd expect him to readily admit, if pressed, that not much is known about precisely what mutations the virus would need in order to achieve efficient, sustained human-to-human transmissibility; certainly not enough to support the assigning of any particular number to the probability of such an event occurring. In addition, the omission of a time frame seriously compromises the value his attempt to do that. Within five months? Five years? Fifteen years? Makes a lot of difference.

He says society may have to face the possibility of fifty percent of the population dying.
I was surprised to see this, since it's more than three times the next highest estimate I've heard from a source I regarded as knowledgable -- and that was maybe twice what most epidemiologists are willing to go (at least when speaking publically). I can only assume that Dr. Webster was including a rather pessimistic outlook on the possible effects of social disruption, though I can't imagine why he would feel that his expertise would make his guesses about that any better than anyone else's.

Is there some sort of mainstream scientific opinion about this virus?
The standard approach is to extrapolate from previous pandemics. Because of the surprisingly high case fatality rate among those humans who have been infected with H5N1 in its current form (actually just a bit over fifty percent), epidemiologists as a whole feel that this virus must be treated as having at least the same potential as the H1N1 virus which caused the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 -- which had an attack rate (the number of people infected) of about 30 percent, and a case fatality rate of about 2.5 percent. The fact that the human population has no immunological memory of this virus doesn't mean that everyone will be equally susceptible though, and while higher attack rates are possible, the likelihood goes down the higher you go. The main reason that the case fatality rate is expected to be about what it was for the Spanish flu is simply that we haven't encountered an influenza virus with a higher rate before; there isn't any specific scientific basis for assuming that the (very) high CFR won't be maintained in a pandemic strain.

One thing that could affect attack rates considerably is the degree to which people are prepared to practice "social distancing". If individuals and families buy groceries on the same "just-in-time" basis that modern businesses use in aquiring the goods they need, folks will be out and about rubbing elbows with each other a lot more, and a lot more of them will catch the bug. Another thing Webster mentioned is that he has stored a three-month supply of food and water at his home in case of an outbreak.
 
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"...He says society may have to face the possibility of fifty percent of the population dying..." -SpartanWarrior.



Bad news. Evidence collected over the last thousand years strongly suggests that 100% of humans will die.

At least this time we'll take those bloody pigeons along with us.
 

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