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I’m new here, and English is not my first language so I apologize in advance for any language mistakes. Feel free to correct any blatant errors or ask me to clarify if my bad grammar makes something not make sense (it could of course not make sense in any case, but… :)). And I hope I posted this in the right place?

This is, I admit, a rather trivial and shallow observation, but still, it’s something that I have come across many, many times when running into all sorts of woos.

I am a non-believer in all sorts of woo, the paranormal, astrology... what have you, and I am an atheist as well. Still, when finding myself in situations where I met a new group of people, the woo(s) in the group, if there is/are any, tend to sort of “adopt” me right away. At parties or other social gatherings they drag me to a corner, happy to have found a “fellow woo” that they can discuss angels with, or tarot cards, or astral projections and auras. In both of the art schools I’ve attended I was at once invited to join the newage clique. On several occasions I’ve been invited to witch covens, new age festivals and goddesses parties under the full moon. And all this by people I didn’t previously know. So what is it about me that screams “fellow woo” when I at best find all those things boring, and at worst feels seriously depressed over the credulous state of such a large part of mankind? Why do they all want to know who my guardian angel is, what color my aura has and who I was in a former life, when I only find it incredibly embarrassing that a grown-up is expressing such blind beliefs in such utter nonsense?

With me and woos it’s sort of the equivalent of cats always wanting to jump onto the lap of the most allergic person in the room.

I figured out, a few years back, why this is. It’s my looks, plain and simple. I like “gypsy-style” tunics and similar “hippie-style” clothing, because I find it pretty, it’s very comfortable to wear and I have found it to be quite complimentary of my figure (and finding such isn’t an easy task, believe me :D ). I also like long hair and I haven’t cut mine in many years (aside from trimming) and it now reaches my knees. I always liked exotic jewelry as well. And painting and writing is both my hobby and my job. All this, I have discovered, is the cast from which newage people are molded! You can NOT look like that and not be a woo!

I am a rather shy person who usually listens politely even to unbearable blabber for a while, but sooner or later I have to pull out and tell the woo that “kidnapped” me that they got it all wrong, I am not at all a fellow woo, and does not believe the slightest in the things they are talking about. And then I am mostly met with quite a negative reaction, no matter how politely I try to explain this. I have fooled these people. I am guilty of false advertising. Well, excuse me for having the personal taste in clothes and jewelry that I have, I didn’t know that a woo-brain must come with it. :rolleyes:

Of course, these days I do know that :) . But I prefer to still dress the way I feel comfortable with and not care about that this misunderstanding will occur now and then, and if they don’t want to be pals after I have shown my true colors… well, I don’t really see that as a great loss. This is not a problem in my life; I just thought it would be amusing to share this trivial and very personal observation. I am not at all saying that this reflects any sort of truth in a wider sense; I am generalizing a bit, based on personal experience. But it did make me realize once how much fashion actually is an important factor even when it comes to beliefs.

Or non-beliefs? Must you be dressing in certain ways to be taken seriously as a skeptic?
 
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You sound like you look like a woo ;)

ETA: Which is different from: You sound like, you look like a woo.
 
lol, yeah, I've come to realize that I do look like one. I hope I don't sound like one :)
 
Well, you go on looking however the hell you like Fran. Don't let those damned woos dictate what you can or can't wear :)
 
Humans are pattern seeking animals. So, if you look like a woo, which is of course your personal decision and nobody has the right to interfere with, people sort of feel “invited” to unload their esoteric garbage on you.

I am a rather shy person who usually listens politely even to unbearable blabber for a while,
Maybe that´s the „mistake“. You are trying to be polite and achieve exactly the opposite. The longer you let them babble, the more they get the feeling you belong to them and the greater their disappointment will be when you finally reveal that you belong to the department of rational thinking. I made that experience a lot of times myself. With very long hair (not as long as yours, but now nearly reaching my butt), and “hippie-style-clothing” (when I was younger) that´s not a big surprise.
How to deal with it? Of course don´t change your look because of that, but if you are approached with any woo subject, make it perfectly clear at this very moment that you are not sharing these views. They´ll still be disappointed but maybe not that angry for being fooled.

Must you be dressing in certain ways to be taken seriously as a skeptic?

No. If that would be the case, the people judging you are not sceptics, but prejudice-driven (rule 8s).
 
I get that. I have long hair, piercings, and I guess something of an indi / emo / new age attitude. I burn incense and like to read sci-fi, have buttons on my jacket and used to have a lot to do with medieval reenactment. I had to learn how to deal with the embarrassed tantrums of people who figured I believed in nonsense suddenly learn that I'm 'not that kind of fringe dweller'.

Athon
 
I’m new here, and English is not my first language so I apologize in advance for any language mistakes.
The evidence you present leads me to doubt your claim regarding your first language. Can you prove you speak another language better than English? I doubt it. Your English is too good. ;)
 
I figured out, a few years back, why this is. It’s my looks, plain and simple. I like “gypsy-style” tunics and similar “hippie-style” clothing, because I find it pretty, it’s very comfortable to wear and I have found it to be quite complimentary of my figure (and finding such isn’t an easy task, believe me :D ). I also like long hair and I haven’t cut mine in many years (aside from trimming) and it now reaches my knees. I always liked exotic jewelry as well. And painting and writing is both my hobby and my job. All this, I have discovered, is the cast from which newage people are molded! You can NOT look like that and not be a woo!

OH!! I get it!
All woo's look the same!! :rolleyes:
 
The evidence you present leads me to doubt your claim regarding your first language. Can you prove you speak another language better than English? I doubt it. Your English is too good. ;)

I was thinking the same thing. :) There are some native English speakers in the Million Dollar Challenge threads that can't write as coherent a post! :boggled:
 
One wonders why you think this is even worth remarking on. The bare fact is
that if you dress like a member of a particular group then most mundanes will
naturally assume that you subscribe to the common beliefs of that group.
Most often, this is indeed the case; clothing styles are commonly used as
powerful symbols of "tribal affiliation".

An interesting social experiment would be to accept one of their invitations
and turn up at one of their "new age festivals" wearing a business suit, or a
burkha :D
 
OH!! I get it!
All woo's look the same!! :rolleyes:

I take it that English isn’t your first langue- what you read clearly isn’t what was written.

The fact is that people work from stereotypes, or has been pointed out earlier humans are pattern seeking animals. If most people who tend to dress in a “hippy” type way have new age type beliefs, it is not unnatural to assume that the next person you meet who dresses that way will also have new age type beliefs.

Also please learn that the statement that all x is y does not imply that all y is x.
 
I take it that English isn’t your first langue- what you read clearly isn’t what was written.

The fact is that people work from stereotypes, or has been pointed out earlier humans are pattern seeking animals. If most people who tend to dress in a “hippy” type way have new age type beliefs, it is not unnatural to assume that the next person you meet who dresses that way will also have new age type beliefs.

Also please learn that the statement that all x is y does not imply that all y is x.

Eh... TruthBeTold was being sarcastic.
 
No way, Fran, you keep dressing the way you like!! :D

I would like to say I also suffer from this problem. I tend to dress like a cheap tramp. I am being completely serious... I have always had an affinity for Dolly Parton. For some reason, perhaps because I am not a Gap model clone, kooky people assume I'm kooky, too. Just yesterday I was carded when I was buying some beer, and the checkout lady started talking to me about how I am a Sagittarius and isn't that a great sign, and I must be very ethereal, etc., etc.

No, lady, I simply appear to be someone who might be kooky enough to believe such claptrap. Can I buy my beer now, because after hearing this horse *****, I could really use a beer! :rolleyes:
 
Aw Man! Brodski!! It beautiful here!!
But, it's a tough crowd and we pronounce it Sarcastica! ;)
And I was just kidding. I don't know crap about algebra! :p

All this, I have discovered, is the cast from which newage people are molded! You can NOT look like that and not be a woo!

Maybe I misunderstood the original post a bit because of that statement. :blush:
 

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