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Gravys post-initiation collapse thread

jessicarabbit

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In this thread gravy will elaborate on the following:

Jessicarabbit: I would like to see your analysis of the total collapse after initiation please gravy.

Gravy: Millions of pounds of building fell, destroying the structure below.

Gravy mentions papers by Bazant and Greening. I would like to see his understanding of these papers.
 
Already been discussed, rabbit:

Huh? Why would you ask a tour guide for a scientific analysis of the collapse of the towers? You've already been referred to Bazant & Zhou (2001), Bazant (2006), Greening (2005-6). Your refutation of their work? Your experts? Your peer-reviewed articles?

Still waiting, Jessica. Start a thread to present the work of your experts.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2055040&postcount=64
Although the math quickly goes over my head, I understand the principles involved, I have read arguments supporting and attempting to refute the papers I cited, I have read the entire NIST report and numerous other papers and some books about progressive collapse, the behavior of structural steel in fires, and the construction of tall buildings. I have seen no reason to disbelieve the experts.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2055052&postcount=66
I have always freely admitted, on this forum and others, that while I have a layman's interest and understanding of the physical principles involved in these discussions, I am not capable of doing complex math. I rely on the people who investigated the events of 9/11, on the engineering community, and on people who didn't get thrown out of Mr. Jakola's trig class for making fun of his ears, to inform me.

Jessica says she is capable of refuting the papers I cited, which many of us have seen. This thread awaits her: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67522

I know she will leap at this opportunity to be the first to successfully refute the conclusions in those papers.
 
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Which part would like explained, and I'll do it for you. If you'd like the nutshell version, Gravy has already provided it.
 
Hi Jessica

Gravy started a post about a half an hour before this one. Maybe you should check it out since it seems you are on a similar subject.
Oh yeah... You aren't a conspiracy theorists are you?


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Today, 08:35 PM <<<< note the time

In this thread gravy will elaborate on the following:

Today, 08:44 PM <<< note the time
No show by gravy?
9 minutes? Do you really get upset if your needs are not met in nine minutes? I get to check this BBS[1] maybe once a day, sometimes twice if I'm skiving off. If you are so convinced that your posts are so important that they deserve an immediate response then I suggest you seek an alternative forum, or maybe just find someone who can offer you a taste of of a real life.

Verde

[1] Yep, I know. But, I was around in the FIDO days, and some habits are hard to break. AFU has also hardened me.
 
9 minutes? Do you really get upset if your needs are not met in nine minutes? I get to check this BBS[1] maybe once a day, sometimes twice if I'm skiving off. If you are so convinced that your posts are so important that they deserve an immediate response then I suggest you seek an alternative forum, or maybe just find someone who can offer you a taste of of a real life.

Verde

[1] Yep, I know. But, I was around in the FIDO days, and some habits are hard to break. AFU has also hardened me.


What's next. jrabbit starting a thread titled "Why hasn't anyone answered this thread yet?"
 

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