Gravy's new document: "half-baked theory"

[chipmunk stew]

Apparently the British Troothers are not impressed by Gravy's WTC7 document.

I introduced the document to them about three days ago.

"chek" found it suspicious that Gravy didn't address molten metal, symmetrical collapse, or Steve Jones' material analysis.

"John White" was confident that the document could be debunked within a couple days tops.

I suggested that they contact Gravy with their concerns.

Later, I followed up to see what progress they had made.

"John White" observed that:

The problems with the document are rather obvious, but that doesnt mean I have to engage in pointing them out to critics

He has free will choice y'know.

"chek" brilliantly parried, nearly stunning me into submission with his audacious lack of self-reflection:

I really don't feel inclined to go chasing and addressing every half-baked theory that everyone in the world cares to invent.

His opinion is not copyrighted and is available for fair use.

 

[Anti-sophist]

2. The molten metal issue is skimmed over. Whether it 'was irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse since it does not provide any
conclusive information on the condition of the steel when the WTC towers were standing' or not, it begs the question what source produced that degree of heat.

I don't understand how many times i have to repeat "friction" to this stupid question. They ask the question, I answer it, they hear me... two days later.. they ask the question again.

Chek takes the idea of "just asking questions" a little to literally. I mean, literally, all he does is ask questions. Nothing more, nothing less. Listening to answers is not on his agenda. Just ask the same questions, over and over.

 

[bob_kark]

How rude! Gravy spent all this time inventing a theory and they're not even going to debunk it? Well I never!

 

[stateofgrace]

You got to admire the ability of the guys on The UK forum. The blinding ability to dismiss and ignore anything that does not come from or is sanctioned by a conspiracy web site. The fact that Gravy’s piece simply destroyers what they hold dear is beside the point.

They are able at the drop of a hat to squeeze their eyes closed, stick their fingers in their ears and sing very loudly “LALA, I’m not listening”.

Clek is a stereotypical conspirator, who will simply avoid any direct question or anything that does not conform to his way of thinking. Direct questions such as “Well what did happen to the passengers?” Are avoided and dismissed.

He is not alone on this board, they all sing to the same tune and all tow the conspiracy party line. Give them anything close to the truth and they side step it and avoid it like the plague. This allows them to continue promoting their loony theories to a captive audience.

The UK movement is very simple is its approach.

911 Deniers = good guys

Norman rational sane people = Bad guys who are to be dismissed, ignored or mocked. Mockery can include calling them war mongers, destroyers of humanity, child killers and they all deserve to rot in hell. (These are taken from replies I have received on this board).

Welcome to the UK 911 Truth movement; abandon hope all that enters here.

 

[chipmunk stew]

You got to admire the ability of the guys on The UK forum. The blinding ability to dismiss and ignore anything that does not come from or is sanctioned by a conspiracy web site. The fact that Gravy’s piece simply destroyers what they hold dear is beside the point.

They are able at the drop of a hat to squeeze their eyes closed, stick their fingers in their eyes and sing very loudly “LALA, I’m not listening”.

Clek is a stereotypical conspirator, who will simply avoid any direct question or anything that does not conform to his way of thinking. Direct questions such as “Well what did happen to the passengers?” Are avoided and dismissed.

He is not alone on this board, they all sing to the same tune and all tow the conspiracy party line. Give them anything close to the truth and they side step it and avoid it like the plague. This allows them to continue promoting their loony theories to a captive audience.

The UK movement is very simple is its approach.

911 Deniers = good guys

Norman rational sane people = Bad guys who are to be dismissed, ignored or mocked. Mockery can include calling them war mongers, destroyers of humanity, child killers and they all deserve to rot in hell. (These are taken from replies I have received on this board).

Welcome to the UK 911 Truth movement; abandon hope all that enters here.

Pound for pound, they seem older, more educated, and more articulate than their American counterparts. I actually took John White for a "moderate LIHOP'er" and even gave him credit as such on this forum...but then I read some of his chemtrail posts and visited his website http://www.illusionsforum.com/ and the mirage of potential vanished in a desert of woo.

 

[GlennB]

....

"chek" brilliantly parried, nearly stunning me into submission with his audacious lack of self-reflection:

....

Chek nearly stunned me into submission by his recent expression of admiration for Hoffman. This, having just been shown that each revision of Hoffman's "pulverisation energy-sink" essay had been either fraudulent or horribly wrong in both fact and methodology.

However, they do have chemtrails and jelly-rain to deal with too, so maybe cut them some slack?

 

[Gravy]

"chek" found it suspicious that Gravy didn't address molten metal, symmetrical collapse, or Steve Jones' material analysis.

They must have been reading version 0.0.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Chek nearly stunned me into submission by his recent expression of admiration for Hoffman. This, having just been shown that each revision of Hoffman's "pulverisation energy-sink" essay had been either fraudulent or horribly wrong in both fact and methodology.

However, they do have chemtrails and jelly-rain to deal with too, so maybe cut them some slack?

Ah, yes. Bartholomew (aka DeFecToR) and the Oobleck (aka "jelly rain").

 

[Gravy]

However, they do have chemtrails and jelly-rain to deal with too, so maybe cut them some slack?

Is that what they call "bukkaked with stupid" over there? The English are so quaint!

 

[Gravy]

How rude! Gravy spent all this time inventing a theory and they're not even going to debunk it? Well I never!

(Psst! Will somebody tell me what my theory is?)

 

[bob_kark]

(Psst! Will somebody tell me what my theory is?)

I thought it had something to do with the Burger King King being a government agent in charge of setting up the demolition charges and the thermite in the WTC after the impact. If you'll notice, he can appear anywhere at any time and if you look deep into his eyes, you'll see he has no soul. Anyway, that's why I don't eat at Burger King anymore.

 

[kookbreaker]

I thought it had something to do with the Burger King King being a government agent in charge of setting up the demolition charges and the thermite in the WTC after the impact. If you'll notice, he can appear anywhere at any time and if you look deep into his eyes, you'll see he has no soul. Anyway, that's why I don't eat at Burger King anymore.

Have you noticed how many Burger King Kings there have been over the decades? He used to be a squeaky voiced cartoon, then a Ronald McDonald Wanabee, now he's a creepy life-size puppet staring down Darth Vader. I blame Halliburton and Cheney.

 

[Gravy]

It's all coming together...

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[bob_kark]

I knew it! That's Rumsfeld in the blue hat!

 

[T.A.M.]

There was a posting over on SLC Blog last night, that inspired me, from a guy who said he and his GF had been lurking for a while. His post was basically thanking me and others for our articulate, calm presentation of the issues and discussion of them.

My point is, once again, not to worry about the CT twirps, USA version or UK variety packs, but to keep fighting the calm reasonable fight for the fence sitters and lurkers.

TAM

 

[Gravy]

There was a posting over on SLC Blog last night, that inspired me, from a guy who said he and his GF had been lurking for a while. His post was basically thanking me and others for our articulate, calm presentation of the issues and discussion of them.

My point is, once again, not to worry about the CT twirps, USA version or UK variety packs, but to keep fighting the calm reasonable fight for the fence sitters and lurkers.

TAM

That's a nice story, T.A.M., but I'm going to keep doing it because the money is so good.

 

[twinstead]

That's a nice story, T.A.M., but I'm going to keep doing it because the money is so good.

I hear ya. My new 42" plasma TV looks sweet in my pool-side Jungle room!

 

[bob_kark]

Hmmm... They told me this was on a volunteer basis only... Looks like I'll need to have a talk with my handler.

 

[DavidJames]

Hmmm... They told me this was on a volunteer basis only... Looks like I'll need to have a talk with my handler.

You need a new agent. I hired the same one who represents Karl Rove.

 

[T.A.M.]

yah I know. I told a CTist over and Conspiracy Smasher that my pay for being a shill was 3 trillion last yaer, but I was only part time, so I didnt make as much as some, and wasnt entitled to the health benefits...lol

TAM