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GOP, 'WHITE CHRISTIAN PARTY'

That's funny. I thought both parties were controlled by white Christians. What's more, mostly older, overweight white Christians with bad hair.

But hardly unexpected, since white Christians seem to be around the place in large quantities, what with being a racial and religious majority in the US.

They could stand to lose a few pounds, though. And not every hair style really requires mousse.
 
Really, I haven't enjoyed the dogpiling on Howard Dean as of late. Terry McAulife (sp?) was a bitter partisan and always said outlandish things at these sorts of meetings Dean goes to where the audience _wants_ to hear some energizing rhetoric. This is Howard Dean's job if you judge it by Terry's execution. Terry was always lieing, obfuscating, grandstanding, spinning, fussing, fueling, tooling.

However, I accepted Terry's performance as part of being a tough competitor. The base doesn't want to hear "can't we all just get along". The base wants to hear "we're right, they're wrong, and we will defeat them".

That said, I find this latest statement nothing but a crude attempt to keep exploiting minorities with fear tactics. Its not only distasteful at the surface but also reveals a darker and sicker underbelly of the modern democrats party attempt to perpetuate divisive memes that not only are below the pale but serve to keep us divided in our schools and neighborhoods.

Downright sickening. I don't mind "us vs them" rhetoric referring to democrat vs republican but "white vs black" is plainly wrong and I think Mr. Dean should get a call from Mr. Clinton on the phone.
 
corplinx said:
That said, I find this latest statement nothing but a crude attempt to keep exploiting minorities with fear tactics. Its not only distasteful at the surface but also reveals a darker and sicker underbelly of the modern democrats party attempt to perpetuate divisive memes that not only are below the pale but serve to keep us divided in our schools and neighborhoods.

I'd also like them to stop pretending to be the party that's interested in gay rights. They're not. They're just don't fulminate out loud against it like the other guys. Although they do sign Defense of Marriage Acts, the bastards.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I'd also like them to stop pretending to be the party that's interested in gay rights. They're not. They're just don't fulminate out loud against it like the other guys. Although they do sign Defense of Marriage Acts, the bastards.

I'm dissappointed with them as well. I was hoping the GOP would hold the line on government growth and the Democrats would lobby for social change once their power had reversed in 94. However, Newt got neutered, reform stopped altogether, and the democrats sellout the gays every chance they get.
 
corplinx said:
I'm dissappointed with them as well. I was hoping the GOP would hold the line on government growth...
What can I say? :(
 
Despite being rather loaded words, I suspect this description is probably more true than not.
 
shecky said:
Despite being rather loaded words, I suspect this description is probably more true than not.

Well, yes, that's obvious, but look at the vilification Dean gets for telling the truth. That's the real news here, more of the big lie.

Obviously, somebody somewhere's decided it's time to start the next campaign.
 
Corplinx is right. Dean was the only candidate to put any spine into the the Democrats who, with Kerry, were basically Bush lite. Doesn't matter whether you liked Dean's positions or not, at least he was vocal.

Now his job is to be even more vocal and turn on the Dems. As Corp says, you don't do this by pussyfooting around. Look for even more of this. It is just part of the Dems trying to something other than against whatever the other guy is doing.
 
jj said:
Well, yes, that's obvious, but look at the vilification Dean gets for telling the truth. That's the real news here, more of the big lie.
The Republican party is monolithic, only Christian and only white. Sounds like rhetoric to me. Dumb rhetoric. Anyone have any evidence or are we supposed to bow our heads and accept it as gospel?
 
Are the stereotypes true about Democrats and Republicans?

Like most any stereotype, the ones about Republicans and Democrats have kernels of truth to them — Republicans tend to make more money, Democrats are more ethnically diverse, Republicans are more religious and Democrats are more liberal. But despite this, the two major parties in the United States draw supporters from all races, regions, religious groups and, income and education levels. And remember that individual candidates, especially presidential candidates, frequently build coalitions that are somewhat different from their party.

Religiously, Jews are staunchly Democratic, 55 percent to 18 percent, and likewise atheists favor Democrats, 31 percent to 15 percent. Unfortunately for Democrats, white Catholics have been trending Republican in recent decades, and the survey I'm using to write this put white Catholics at 32 percent Democratic and 31 percent Republican. White Protestants are overwhelmingly Republican, 40 percent to 26 percent. Of those, evangelical Protestants are even more Republican compared with mainline Protestant denominations. Additionally, the more orthodox views and the greater frequency of church attendance white Christians have, the more likely they are to be Republican.

Racially, white Americans are more Republican, 34 percent to 29 percent. Blacks are staunchly Democratic, 65 percent to 6 percent and Hispanics are slightly less Democratic, 40 percent to 20 percent. The survey doesn't have statistics for Native Americans and Asian Americans, likely because those groups have relatively small populations numbers, skewing poll results.
So much for critical thinking at the JREF. :(
 
shecky said:
Despite being rather loaded words, I suspect this description is probably more true than not.
Hmmmm..... "probably more true than not"...

I'll withdraw my last post for the moment.
 
This is typical from the "might makes right" bullies, I suspect:

QUOTE]Originally posted by RandFan
The Republican party is monolithic, only Christian and only white.

[/quote]
Now I can't get the stupid audio clip to play, but in fact the text around it says nothing like "only Christian and only white".

If he really said that, he is a profound idiot, but I have a feeling, and one that I'll ask you about again and again, that you JUST MADE THAT PART UP like most of the stuff you guys put into other people's mouths.

Sounds like rhetoric to me. Dumb rhetoric. Anyone have any evidence or are we supposed to bow our heads and accept it as gospel?

Yeah, except it sounds like a dishonest straw man to me.

Did Dean say the words "only Christian and only white"? If he didn't, why did you lie?

If he did, well, yeah, he's a (rule 8) idiot.
 
shecky said:
Despite being rather loaded words, I suspect this description is probably more true than not.

They are beyond loaded, they are stupid. I think that one reason people got turned off to Kerry was his association with people with incendiary attitudes.

From what I have gotten from Dean's remarks he also thinks that Repubs don't work.

This ain't the way to win elections though it might appeal to the suicidal wing of the democratic party.
 
I suspect that Dean is being pushed to say things like this. He's a fairly savvy politician so I'm sure he knows how brazen some of his recent comments are. His job though is to bring in money for the DNC for the next election. Terry Mcauliffe had the job for a number of years and bellowed equally silly statements. The difference is, who the heck is Terry Mcauliffe? He's not news. Everyone knows Howard Dean - he's news. With major contributors like Soros pushing most of the buttons at the DNC (after all, execs at Moveon have already stated that the DNC belongs to them since they bought and paid for it.) I expect we'll be hearing a lot more of this in the future.
 
Howard Dean called the GOP "white" and "Christian."

For his next trick, he will inform us that the Pope is Catholic, bears %^&* in the woods, and that Elvis is indeed dead.
 
jj said:
Yeah, except it sounds like a dishonest straw man to me.

Did Dean say the words "only Christian and only white"? If he didn't, why did you lie?
You missed my last post.
 
Cleon said:
Howard Dean called the GOP "white" and "Christian."

For his next trick, he will inform us that the Pope is Catholic, bears %^&* in the woods, and that Elvis is indeed dead.
You missed the statistics that I posted. Please see above. You and Dean are making what is known as a stereotype. Stereotypes are considered passe except when they are used against whites or Christians or groups comprised of or percieved to be comprised of whites and Christians.
 
jj said:
Did Dean say the words "only Christian and only white"? If he didn't, why did you lie?
"Why did I lie"? Oh for Christ's sake, it was mistake that I withdrew. NO HE DIDN'T SAY "ONLY" It is still stupid rhetoric based on a stereotype.
 
RandFan said:
You missed the statistics that I posted. Please see above. You and Dean are making what is known as a stereotype. Stereotypes are considered passe except when they are used against whites or Christians or groups comprised of or percieved to be comprised of whites and Christians.

Not at all. It's a reflection of reality. Your article even says so--"Republicans tend to make more money, Democrats are more ethnically diverse, Republicans are more religious and Democrats are more liberal."

The Republican party is overwhelmingly white and Christian. That's reality. Of course, your article would be more useful if it analyzed the parties rather than the population; in other how many in the Democratic/Republican leadership are white, Christian, etc. Break it down by leadership positions, prominent activists, etc.
 

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