Gonzales is against torture??????? Whaaa???

Dorian Gray

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Dorian Gray
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Gonzales stated that he was against torture in Congressional hearings. What a lying douche bag to go with all the other lying douche bags in the Bush administration or associated with it. If I went and took kids lunch money and killed puppies in Libya, I'd probably get a Medal of Freedom. Bush rewards idiocy and sadism.

Tenet got a medal, even though there were no WMDs
Franks got a medal even though he let Osama go.
Bremer got a medal even though he disbanded the Iraqi army.
Rumsfeld gets to stay on, despite his flippant attitude towards US troops.
Wolfowitz gets to stay on, despite his claims in Feb 2003 that we won't need more than 100,000 men and 26 billion dollars to fight in Iraq.

I mean, sheesh! And now here's Gonzales, King of the Geneva "Loopholes", claiming to be against torture. What the f*ck ever.
 
I'm having trouble understanding your point. A neocon is stating publicly what the party wants him to say. And what is exactly your problem here? He said one thing and now he's saying something totally opposite. Stop the presses, the "compassionate conservatives" are in power.

Charlie (drink the koolaid!) Monoxide
 
Dorian Gray said:
Franks got a medal even though he let Osama go.
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What in the world are you talking about? First, we never knew where Osama was during our invasion of Afghanistan. He may have been in Tora Bora, he may not have. Even if he was, there was no "letting him go" involved. What we had on the ground, special ops forces, were the only US forces available. Contrary to Kerry's cheap shots on the campaign trail, the choice wasn't between "outsourcing" and doing it ourselves, the choice was between using our allies (I thought that's what Kerry wanted) when we did, or waiting months for our own forces to get in position, something that would have let pretty much every Taliban and Al Quaeda member holed up in Tora Bora to escape. The overthrow of the Taliban and the liberation of Afghanistan was brilliantly executed. It defied the conventional wisdom that we would merely follow the footsteps of the Russians and the British before them in failure, as well as countless other predictions of dire results (such as the millions who were supposed to starve but never did). Afghanistan was and is a success story. And Franks DOES deserve a lot of the credit for this, and giving him a medal is justified.

Tenet, on the other hand, does not deserve his. And as for Bremer, well, disbanding the army was a hard call. Yes, it created problems, but it also prevented other problems, problems that advocates of maintaining the Iraqi army don't have to address because we'll never see them now. I'm not convinced it was the wrong call at all, and it's probably going to remain a topic of debate well into the future (ala Truman's decision to drop the bomb).
 
Dorian Gray said:
Gonzales stated that he was against torture in Congressional hearings. What a lying douche bag to go with all the other lying douche bags in the Bush administration or associated with it. If I went and took kids lunch money and killed puppies in Libya, I'd probably get a Medal of Freedom. Bush rewards idiocy and sadism.

Tenet got a medal, even though there were no WMDs
Franks got a medal even though he let Osama go.
Bremer got a medal even though he disbanded the Iraqi army.
Rumsfeld gets to stay on, despite his flippant attitude towards US troops.
Wolfowitz gets to stay on, despite his claims in Feb 2003 that we won't need more than 100,000 men and 26 billion dollars to fight in Iraq.

I mean, sheesh! And now here's Gonzales, King of the Geneva "Loopholes", claiming to be against torture. What the f*ck ever.
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In an attic somewhere, there is a picture of you getting more and more conservative.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12606-2005Jan15.html

Wash Post editorial hits nail on head.

DESPITE A POOR performance at his confirmation hearing, Alberto R. Gonzales appears almost certain to be confirmed by the Senate as attorney general. Senators of both parties declared themselves dissatisfied with Mr. Gonzales's lack of responsiveness to questions about his judgments as White House counsel on the detention of foreign prisoners. Some expressed dismay at his reluctance to state that it is illegal for American personnel to use torture, or for the president to order it. A number of senators clearly believe, as we do, that Mr. Gonzales bears partial responsibility for decisions that have led to shocking, systematic and ongoing violations of human rights by the United States. Most apparently intend to vote for him anyway. At a time when nominees for the Cabinet can be disqualified because of their failure to pay taxes on a nanny's salary, this reluctance to hold Mr. Gonzales accountable is shameful. He does not deserve to be confirmed as attorney general.
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