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God talking to people.

I hate it when people claim that God talked to them. Half the time I think they're making it up, and the other half of the time I think they're crazy.
 
I think that's her angle: "Look I'm CRAZY! God told me to KILL!"

Why don't gods ever want people to do nice things when they talk to people?
 
Her husband is standing by her!

She did it on Mother's Day.

She said she didn't feel she did right by Aaron. (He's the one that survived)


The Lord works in mysterious ways.
 
Just another tragic result of a dark, rarely voiced belief that it is better a few people die or suffer so that the world will not perish in unbelief.
 
I think I mentioned this the other day on paltalk or in another thread, or something, but as a young child, I was absolutely convinced that my opponent in the imaginary games of checkers I would play in my head was God.

And he'd often talk to me. But then as a child in a fundie household, I think God often took the place of my "imaginary friend" most kids have at some point.
 
Calling 911 after the killings, I'm afraid this insinuates that this woman did in fact know right from wrong and was aware of what she did. :(
 
Jeez, again ?

This God fellow needs to learn some new tricks.

"I just killed my boys. I don't think I did right by Aaron."
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I agree with Yahweh's analysis. She knew what she was doing either at the time or very soon there-after.

Why would any-one want to kill their own children?
 
More senseless deaths due to ignorance and superstition.

I won't be the last.
 
Blue Monk said:
More senseless deaths due to ignorance and superstition.

I won't be the last.
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Did you mean to say "I won't be the last"? If this comes true you are a prophet! woo hoo!
 
Blue Monk said:
More senseless deaths due to ignorance and superstition.
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You mean mental illness. If this woman's lying to save her hide, the deaths were not the result of ignorance and superstition (dangerous though they are). If, on the other hand, she is to be believed, then she is probably insane and the deaths were likewise not the result of ignorance and superstition. The absence of superstition is not going to prevent a genuine psychopath from engaging in antisocial behavior, although the presence of superstition may color her particular cognitive experience of her illness.

EDITED TO ADD: Now that I think of it, this case has little or nothing to do with religion in any meaningful sense. What's a thread about it doing in the R&P forum?
 
ceo_esq said:
EDITED TO ADD: Now that I think of it, this case has little or nothing to do with religion in any meaningful sense. What's a thread about it doing in the R&P forum?
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I agree.. A thread about conversations with God should definitely be in " Humor "....


Moderator ?
 
triadboy said:



Did you mean to say "I won't be the last"? If this comes true you are a prophet! woo hoo!
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It! It! I meant, "IT won't be the last."

Honest, please don't kill me.

Boy, some typos are worse than others, hehe.
 
Hm...use a Christian god as a defense for murder, you're insane. If you use god as defense for daily life, you're a pillory of society.
 
ceo_esq said:
You mean mental illness. If this woman's lying to save her hide, the deaths were not the result of ignorance and superstition (dangerous though they are). If, on the other hand, she is to be believed, then she is probably insane and the deaths were likewise not the result of ignorance and superstition. The absence of superstition is not going to prevent a genuine psychopath from engaging in antisocial behavior, although the presence of superstition may color her particular cognitive experience of her illness.

EDITED TO ADD: Now that I think of it, this case has little or nothing to do with religion in any meaningful sense. What's a thread about it doing in the R&P forum?
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I agree that Mental Illness would appear to be the major factor here but I would not be too quick to dismiss the role ignorance and superstition plays in cases like this.

I am sure no one would suggest that a skeptic or an atheist is somehow less prone to mental illness than the fundamentalist but there are large numbers of people who at the outset of mental illness recognize it as such and seek help. Not all, of course but many.

It is no accident that the Bible is so often the inspiration of so many violent crimes by mentally ill people. What are we to expect of one who begins hearing voices and believing it is God when they have been indoctrinated since birth that a powerful mystical being controls the Universe, interacts with man and often speaks to men and women directly, sometimes making demands that appear on the surface to contradict his teachings as in the testing of Abraham?

When people hear the ‘voice’ of ‘God’ and have been told all of their life that this is ‘normal’ and that they should ‘obey God’s word’ and then they set about slaughtering others unquestioningly based on this premise, how can anyone seriously factor out the role of ignorance and superstition in these types of cases?
 
Hi,
I'm sorry, to claim that this incident has nothing to do with religion is delusional.

From the day we enter school we are taught that the greatest people hear voices, see visions, offer their children as human sacrifice... willingly die horrible deaths for a blood soaked history of belief in God.

And so why is schizophrenia so misunderstood when it is painfully simple? Because to acknowledge that seeing or hearing things that are not there is a mental illness undermines the faith of billions of people. "So let them die."

This is the indictment leveled at religion.

And the response? Gee, we should remove this from this forum, it is not really related to religion at all.
 
Suezoled said:
Hm...use a Christian god as a defense for murder, you're insane. If you use god as defense for daily life, you're a pillory of society.
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wow... I really...wow... sorry Pillory. That was a typo on my part.
 
Bluemonk wrote:
It is no accident that the Bible is so often the inspiration of so many violent crimes by mentally ill people........
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I recall a series of murders my father investigated in the early 1970's. A guy hacked up a bunch of people in a campground with a sickle (nice, huh?). His defense was Jesus called him up on the phone and told him to do it. Upon further investigation, it was found to be true; no Jesus didn't call him, but his minister did. Apparently the minister and the suspects wife were committing hosiery and wanted him out of the picture. I think they were all convicted.

On another thread it was brought up how fundies seek supernatural explanations for (and over) natural ones. Over time, this has great psychological effects. Not that it leads to murder, but it does manifest itself commonly in these peoples lives. Mormon's are big on this. My mormon in-laws are always telling me how God saved all the mormons at Columbine or how no mormon churches were damaged in the Oklahoma tornadoes a few years back. I call it ego-mormonism.
 
Suezoled said:


wow... I really...wow... sorry Pillory. That was a typo on my part.
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Well, Pillory may actually believe that kind of stuff, but who cares? It's Pillory! He rocks!
 
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