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God hates little black kids

Graham

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Take god in whatever flavour you like - Yahweh, Alllah, Mother Earth, you name it.

It seems to me that whoever he or she is, he really hates those black kids.

The vast majority of the world's black peole live guess where.

The vast majority of Africa is guess what.

Civil war, famine, AIDS, you name it, Africa's got it in absolute spades (no hideously insensitive racial pun intended).

God really hates those black kids, hey?

Hey all you loving Christians - what does God have against black people? Hey all you "Allah loves wonderous variety" types - why doesn't he love black people?

God, the ultimate clansman :rolleyes:

Graham
 
That is partly why I believe the universe is a chaotic bunch of atoms with no pupose.

Lifegazer says that all those people suffer because it will make god more joyful.
 
Well, my own father would have told you - when he was still alive - that it's because they (those in third world countries - particularly the black and brown people) are Godless savages. So you see, it's their own fault they live under such apalling conditions.
:rm:

All of which is "partly why I believe the universe is a chaotic bunch of atoms with no purpose."
 
Graham said:
Take god in whatever flavour you like - Yahweh, Alllah, Mother Earth, you name it.

...

God, the ultimate clansman :rolleyes:

Graham

You mean Klansman. Clansmen are OK. Bonnie Scotland forever!

What happens, happens. What evil people do, they do.

If there is a God, meaning some entity who willed the universe into existence, then the most obvious explanation is that He simply does not care.

I say there is no God, but either way we are hideously on our own.

The various news organizations try to make it look like the end of civilization every time there is one casualty in Iraq.

Meanwhile, millions die in Africa. The weapons are not high-tech. Machetes and rifles. No "weapons of mass destruction" at all, yet there is mass destruction.

Where is the UN? Supporting "legitimate" governments, of course. :mad:
 
Mercutio said:
Based solely on my own life...god must love atheists.
Hm, now that you mention it, I guess it may be true.

My life was no great shakes as a Christian, but now that I'm a non-believer, things are going swell!
 
God probably(?) would also show mirth at risible atheist strawgod embroilments.


It seems to me that whoever he or she is, he really hates those black kids.


Some conjectures: God could have given humans life to begin with and then could have left humanity to themselves and their free will, Good and bad and black and white and young and old, etc., are human concepts, Nature/God/whatever existing does not mean that life has to be easy, painless, or etc., Since atheists believe there is no god, it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids", There is a difference between permitting and causing.
 
calladus said:
Hm, now that you mention it, I guess it may be true.

My life was no great shakes as a Christian, but now that I'm a non-believer, things are going swell!

Were you one of those hellfire fearing Christians or something?
 
T'ai Chi said:
God probably(?) would also show mirth at risible atheist strawgod embroilments.

Some conjectures: God could have given humans life to begin with and then could have left humanity to themselves and their free will, Good and bad and black and white and young and old, etc., are human concepts, Nature/God/whatever existing does not mean that life has to be easy, painless, or etc., Since atheists believe there is no god, it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids", There is a difference between permitting and causing.

So many fallacies so little time . . .

1) Where is the "strawgod"? Whichever god you choose, he apparently has it in for one group or another. Thay all appear to have it in for the black population of the world.

As USA has pointed out, he's not that keen on brown people either or yellow if you consider that the majority of the population of China still lives in the middle ages starving and ignorant at the whim of their feudal lords.

I have not constructed any god straw or otherwise. I am merely reflecting on the qualities of those already invented.

2) We could debate all day about whether or not "free will" exists. Assuming it does though, where is the freewill in where you are born or what your skin colour is? Statistically, if you are born black, you are most likely to be born in Africa and are therefore many times more likely to live a short and unpleasant and painful life than if you are born in Europe or the US (or Japan or more "civilised" parts of China or, or, or . . .). Your reference to free will is therefore a red herring.

3) "Since atheists believe there is no god" - that too is open to debate. Personally, I don't feel that I believe in "no god", I just don't believe in "a god". The difference is subtle but important.

4) "it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids" - Eh, no. Random godless forces are, by definition, random. They don't hate anybody any more than they like or love anybody. They have neither emotions nor intentions.

5) "There is a difference between permitting and causing"

Here's a little experiment for you to try -

Dig a hole in the pavement outside your house, put a bunch of spikes in the bottom and cover it up with netting or something. Now go back in your house and watch until someone falls into the hole and impales themselves on the spikes.

When the police arrive, tell them you didn't cause the person to fall in the hole, you just permitted it.

When you get out on bail, let us know what they said.

Graham
 
Graham, despite your quote, thank you for again reminding me why I have Tai Chi on iggy.

The fact remains, as Europe grows less Godly, it's standard of living increases. As Africa grows more Godly, it's standard of living declines. As the U.S. continues it's psychotic relationship with an all benificent and simultaneously all vengeful deity economic difficulties really haven't effected the standard of living.

Nothing says a loving deity like starvation and AIDS... unless you count a 700 Club food truck showing up for 3 hours of evangelism and 20 minutes of food distribution.
 
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T'ai Chi said:
Some conjectures: God could have given humans life to begin with and then could have left humanity to themselves and their free will, Good and bad and black and white and young and old, etc., are human concepts, Nature/God/whatever existing does not mean that life has to be easy, painless, or etc., Since atheists believe there is no god, it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids", There is a difference between permitting and causing.

So, if there is a God he is essentially useless.

Of course, I always find it amusing that many believers claim that there is suffering in the world because God gave us free will and doesn't interfere in the day to day workings of the world. Yet, at the same time they love to point out the wonderful miracles that are the result of prayer (y'know, the dying kid who defied medical odds by surviving because his parents and relatives prayed for him.) Which is it? If God occasionally helps out people who pray, then he must be held accountable for the deaths of innocent children. You can't have it both ways.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying this is what you believe T'ai Chi, as I don't know enough about your own personal philosophies.

However your statement:

it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids",

Is a massive bit of silliness worthy of Franko.
 
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KelvinG said:
If God occasionally helps out people who pray, then he must be held accountable for the deaths of innocent children. You can't have it both ways.

Yes you can, because they have that covered up too: "God works in mysterious ways". See ? :cool:
 
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El Greco said:


Yes you can, because they have that covered up too: "God works in mysterious ways". See ? :cool:

i.e. "God can be a real prick when he wants to be!":p
 
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mummymonkey said:

Yes, but you get jail time for both.

Uh, ok, only if you are considering criminal activities here, but you can also consider good things.

If a God exists and creates people with the capability to do harm, and people have free will, that means God should be convicted when that person does harm? I don't think so..
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Graham, despite your quote, thank you for again reminding me why I have Tai Chi on iggy.


You can run away from a discussion, that is fine with me. :)
 
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Graham said:

So many fallacies so little time . . .


On your side, or mine?


the majority of the population of China still lives in the middle ages starving and ignorant at the whim of their feudal lords.


LOL!!!! Are you for real????!


4) "it is really the random godless forces of their materialistic universe that "hate little black kids" - Eh, no. Random godless forces are, by definition, random. They don't hate anybody any more than they like or love anybody. They have neither emotions nor intentions.


Yeah, but do they cause it all to happen, or not? The world is all material afterall, right?


Dig a hole in the pavement outside your house, put a bunch of spikes in the bottom and cover it up with netting or something. Now go back in your house and watch until someone falls into the hole and impales themselves on the spikes.

When the police arrive, tell them you didn't cause the person to fall in the hole, you just permitted it.


You've only demonstrated that I have free will to choose to do that or not.
 
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T'ai Chi said:


Uh, ok, only if you are considering criminal activities here, but you can also consider good things.

If a God exists and creates people with the capability to do harm, and people have free will, that means God should be convicted when that person does harm? I don't think so..


Uh, ok, only if you are considering criminal activities here, but you can also consider good things.

Like a father that beats and rapes his little girl but then buts her a new bike after? Does the bike erase the beatings and rape?

If a God exists and creates people with the capability to do harm, and people have free will, that means God should be convicted when that person does harm? I don't think so..

Yes if this being creates a being knowing before “he” creates them that they will do harm to your child yet stands back and does nothing when he kills your child.

If the god knows the killer will kill your child before he creates him and still creates him it is the god that is the true killer not actually the man.

If you use the Christian view of free will and god you must then admit it is illogical as let us again use your child as the one being killed she I would assume had the free will NOT to be killed. What of her free will why is his able to over ride hers. Why would an all powerful being allow such and do nothing and then punish the man for doing what he was “made” to do be cause this God knew it before hand.

In any court the God would be found guilty.
 

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