General Holocaust Denial Discussion Part II

[CaptainHowdy]

It was obvious. That's where trench 3 was. That's why the documentary showed Christian crosses. Indeed the Eric Hunt propaganda videos show this exact same footage of crosses lifted from the documentary.

Have you actually watched the documentary? Have you actually watched Eric Hunt's propaganda video?

I have watched the documentary but I need to see it again. I don't recall the scene with the Christian crosses. I haven't watched Eric Hunt's video.

It's called gathering evidence. A good forensic archaeologist is going to poke around everywhere to understand the dig's "environment". That's what detectives do. A forensic archaeologist has to follow where the evidence takes them, and not just dig in places to confirm what they all already know.

Additionally, in digs, you have to gather "controls" which means gathering soil samples, soil acidity, etc, in close by areas, to allow comparison to the target area. I'm not saying that trench three was for this purpose, but you will see Staffordshire University's team digging in unrelated areas to gather this control information. That's why this dig is called "a survey of Treblinka". The university is following standard practices.

I agree with what you say. But showing this preliminary research in the documentary without clearly identifying it as such is confusing. Again though, I must see the documentary and pay closer attention to these scenes. The next time it is going to be shown on the Smithsonian Channel is May 31

However, are you denying that Staffordshire University's survey has directly excavated the old gas chamber at Treblinka II? Do you consider that good evidence? If not, why not?

I don't know what they have found. The documentary makers left no doubt that they were digging in the area of the gas chambers. But the most convincing evidence they showed us was those tiles with the Stars of David on them. Since those aren't Stars of David stamped on the bottom we're left with some tiles that the voice over says are just like tiles Carolyn Sturdy-Colls has seen in old bathhouses in Poland.

The documentary itself is not convincing. I'm waiting to see what she publishes about her work before I decide one way or another.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I don't know what they have found. The documentary makers left no doubt that they were digging in the area of the gas chambers. But the most convincing evidence they showed us was those tiles with the Stars of David on them. Since those aren't Stars of David stamped on the bottom we're left with some tiles that the voice over says are just like tiles Carolyn Sturdy-Colls has seen in old bathhouses in Poland.

Fair enough. You are unaware that the orange floor tiles and white wall tiles were specific evidence that this was the old gas chamber. Three eyewitnesses had described these tiles back in the 1940's.

The Old Gas Chamber
“The walls of the room were covered with small, white tiles. It was very fine, clean work.” (Krzepicki)
“Its walls were covered with small white tiles.” (Demjanjuk)
The walls of the gas chamber were covered with white tiles up to a certain height.” (Kogon)

“The floor was covered with orange terra cotta tiles.” (Krzepicki)
“The floor was covered with terra-cotta tiles.” (Demjanjuk)

Good news that we now have even more strong evidence, isn't it.

 

[Mondial]

The Smithsonian claim that they found "gas chamber" tiles is false - http://newobserveronline.com/smiths...of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/
An article on tree felling at Treblinka - http://codoh.com/library/document/1912/
The above compliments the Eric Hunt documentary on Treblinka - www.gaschamberhoax.com

 

[Matthew Ellard]

The Smithsonian claim that they found "gas chamber" tiles is false - http://newobserveronline.com/smiths...of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/

Mondail? This article is about the misidentification of the tiles, on screen, in the documentary by one person, Ivar Schute. You are already very aware the tiles were correctly identified prior to this on the Staffordshire University's "preliminary report". Why did you say this proves the old gas chamber isn't the old gas chamber?

The above compliments the Eric Hunt documentary on Treblinka - www.gaschamberhoax.com

Modail? Can you walk us through and specify exactly where in Eric Hunt's propaganda film he calculates 10,000 people transited through Treblinka II. You have been reading Eric's interesting posts on CODOH? No?

"(My) documentary shows proof that approximately 10,000 Jews were transited"

"One of the reasons I didn't just add up the numbers on screen which add up to approximately 10,000...".

Where do you think Eric got his "10,000" figure from? Why can't he explain this to the other holocaust deniers who are now questioning his "adding up"?

 

[Rincewind]

I'd like to add a question..

Even if the transit of 10,000 people is accurate, how does it alter the accepted Treblinka II facts?

After all, it's well documented (see this thread....) that more than 750,000 people arrived at the camp....

 

[Mondial]

Michael Shermer has tried to have David Cole's new book on his experiences as a holocaust revisionist banned because it shows him in an unflattering light - www.countercontempt.com/archives/5232
The documentary that David Cole made back in 1992 - http://codoh.com/library/document/1001/

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Michael Shermer has tried to have David Cole's new book on his experiences as a holocaust revisionist banned because it shows him in an unflattering light - www.countercontempt.com/archives/5232

No Mondail. Please read the previous posts in this thread before posting. We have already dealt with David Cole's lies. David Cole lies and misquotes Michael Shermer. Here is just one clear example already mentioned.

In 1993 Michael Shermer's recorded quote said " I think the gas chamber story, in terms of physical evidence is the weakest link." David Cole lied and claimed "Michael Shermer thinks the gas chambers are the weakest link in the whole story" in 2014.

Do you agree David Cole is misquoting Dr Shermer? Yes or No?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

The documentary that David Cole made back in 1992 - http://codoh.com/library/document/1001/

Mondail? You are posting links to David Cole as evidence that the holocaust didn't happen. Are you aware that David Cole has just released a book called "Republican Party Animal"? In his current book David Cole states:

Treblinka Gas Chambers
"They were simple creations---rooms with the exhaust of a car or truck piped in...The gas chambers were simply rooms with no windows, a locked door, and car exhaust piped in. Big outdoor pits, not crematoriums, were used for burning bodies"

AR Camps
"From 1942 through 1943, Polish Jewry was subjected to one of the most brutal campaigns of mass murder in human history. Because of the secrecy surrounding those four extermination camps, and the fact that they were ploughed under and erased from existence in 1943, it's difficult to be precise about certain details. ............. more than enough circumstantial evidence exists to show that for most Jews, the train ride to those camps was one-way, and final."

As a holocaust denier, do you agree with David Cole? If not, why do you keep linking to him if you think he is wrong?


Just for the record, have you actually watched Eric Hunt's propaganda film? I'm becoming suspicious that no holocaust denier has actually watched Eric Hunt's film, read David Cole's books or worked out where Poland is.. It appears to me that holocaust deniers are simply posting links here because they "know the links", not the content. Would that be a correct assumption?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

The revisionist hits just keep on coming. Here is David Cole & Bradley Smith's 2007 film on the Great Taboo -

EtienneSC? You say the "hits keep coming" in 2014 by linking us to a video from six years ago by David Cole. Did you actually watch this video yourself before linking it here? David Cole states he believes in the holocaust in this video.

Can you explain in detail why you linked this video? What was your point?