Fredrik
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A few years ago I read an article called "HBO Experiments" on Gary Schwartz's old web site (openmindsciences). I would like to read it again. Did anyone here save a copy of it before the site went offline? If you have it as a pdf or something, let me know, and I'll PM my E-mail address.
I would also like to take this opportunity to say that I think most skeptics are wrong about Schwartz's methods. The biggest flaw isn't that the mediums might be able to cheat. It's that almost anything they say will be interpreted as a hit (so there's no need to cheat). The HBO Experiment is a beautiful example of this.
For example, Schwartz noticed that one of the mediums only asked the sitter five yes/no questions, and decided that that was a good reason to compare the results of the first five yes/no questions that the mediums asked. Schwartz then assumed that the probability of each answer being yes was 50%, and calculated the probability that the mediums would get as many correct answers as they did. This probability was very low, and he interpreted this as evidence of paranormal abilities and of the existence of an afterlife.
But look at the first five questions that one of the mediums asked: (I posted this on a Swedish forum years ago, so I could get this part of the article from there).
MEDIUM: Now, I don't know if they mean this by age or by generation, but they talk about the younger male that passed. Does that make sense to you?
SITTER: Yes.
MEDIUM: Okay, ‘cause wherever he is is claiming he was the first one in the room. So I guess he wants the credit of coming first. He states he's family, that's correct?
SITTER: Correct.
MEDIUM: This I don't understand. If you do, say yes, you understand, but don't explain. He speaks about his dad, does that make sense?
SITTER: Yes.
MEDIUM: I don't know why yet. I don't know if he's trying to tell me his dad is there or if he's calling to his dad. So don't say anything, I want them to say it. Also, another male presence comes forward to you and says, "Dad is here." Is it correct your dad is passed?
SITTER: Correct.
MEDIUM: Okay, ‘cause he's there. But this younger male, these are two different people, correct?
SITTER: Correct?
I would also like to take this opportunity to say that I think most skeptics are wrong about Schwartz's methods. The biggest flaw isn't that the mediums might be able to cheat. It's that almost anything they say will be interpreted as a hit (so there's no need to cheat). The HBO Experiment is a beautiful example of this.
For example, Schwartz noticed that one of the mediums only asked the sitter five yes/no questions, and decided that that was a good reason to compare the results of the first five yes/no questions that the mediums asked. Schwartz then assumed that the probability of each answer being yes was 50%, and calculated the probability that the mediums would get as many correct answers as they did. This probability was very low, and he interpreted this as evidence of paranormal abilities and of the existence of an afterlife.
But look at the first five questions that one of the mediums asked: (I posted this on a Swedish forum years ago, so I could get this part of the article from there).
MEDIUM: Now, I don't know if they mean this by age or by generation, but they talk about the younger male that passed. Does that make sense to you?
SITTER: Yes.
MEDIUM: Okay, ‘cause wherever he is is claiming he was the first one in the room. So I guess he wants the credit of coming first. He states he's family, that's correct?
SITTER: Correct.
MEDIUM: This I don't understand. If you do, say yes, you understand, but don't explain. He speaks about his dad, does that make sense?
SITTER: Yes.
MEDIUM: I don't know why yet. I don't know if he's trying to tell me his dad is there or if he's calling to his dad. So don't say anything, I want them to say it. Also, another male presence comes forward to you and says, "Dad is here." Is it correct your dad is passed?
SITTER: Correct.
MEDIUM: Okay, ‘cause he's there. But this younger male, these are two different people, correct?
SITTER: Correct?