Fundies invent creepy new ceremony

Abdul Alhazred

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No sex please, we're daddy's little girls (AFP via Yahoo)

WASHINGTON (AFP) - It has all the ingredients of a wedding. The proud tuxedo-clad father, the frosted white cake, the limousines and an exchange of vows.

But there is no groom and the girl in the long gown is no bride. She's daddy's little girl, there to take a vow of chastity.

In what is becoming a trend among conservative Christians in the United States, girls as young as nine are pledging to their fathers to remain virgins until they wed, in elaborate ceremonies dubbed "Purity Balls."

The gala affairs are intended to celebrate the father-daughter relationship.

The highlight is when the fathers and daughters exchange vows, with dad signing a covenant to protect his daughter's chastity by living an unblemished life and the daughter promising not to have sex until marriage.

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Get a load of the picture at the link. :eek:


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One study conducted by researchers at the universities of Columbia and Yale found that 88 percent of pledgers wind up having sex before marriage.

"Unfortunately these young people tend, once they start to have sex, to have more partners in a shorter period of time and to use contraception much less than their non-pledging peers," said Debra Hauser, executive vice president at Advocates for Youth, a Washington-based non-profit organization.

"Teens may pledge with the best of intention... and then as they break their pledges they are so shamed and embarrassed that it's unlikely they will go for help."
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Any ex-fundies here who can tell me more?

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Seems to me that a "Purity Ball" is like a car show, except for hymens.
 
Wow...."Creepy" just doesn't do it justice.


Wait a minute.

These are the same people who campaign against any form of sex education. Do this little girls even know what "virgin" means?
 
It might be a rhetorical question, but it still ought to be asked. The reality behind Fundamentalism is that it's a whitewash. You can look incredibly Holy, but when it's all said and done, you're still the same rotten SOB you've always been. The whole point of Christianity is that you're supposed to be changed from the inside out, that the "rotten" you is transformed.

That's not what happens. And in 20 years of trying to be changed, in trying to be a better person, I found the only thing that had changed is that I had become more gullible, more silly, more childish, more STUPID. If I wanted to do that, I could have had a lobotomy for a whole lot less green. To be truly transformed, you have to engage your brain and start connecting your actions to the results you get. That's the only way you become a better person in this world.
 
Roadtoad said:
... The reality behind Fundamentalism is that it's a whitewash. You can look incredibly Holy, but when it's all said and done, you're still the same rotten SOB you've always been. The whole point of Christianity is that you're supposed to be changed from the inside out, that the "rotten" you is transformed.

That's not what happens...
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Well said.
 
Roadtoad said:
It might be a rhetorical question, but it still ought to be asked. The reality behind Fundamentalism is that it's a whitewash. You can look incredibly Holy ...
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I know what you're saying, but I'm not real sure I know what 'holy' looks like.
 
I seem to recall a segment I heard on NPR to the effect that polling of individuals who went through these ceremonies had a no better incidence of virginity a year later than those who did not.....
 
Bikewer said:
I seem to recall a segment I heard on NPR to the effect that polling of individuals who went through these ceremonies had a no better incidence of virginity a year later than those who did not.....
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All that "poling" was bound to have a detrimental effect on the virginity count, of course. :cool:

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Wow. I'm sure constructing an elaborate ceremony around demonizing sexuality to a nine year old girl is a good way to ensure healthy psychological development.

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This reminds me of that scene in "Jesus Camp" where a seven year old girl dances to Christian Rock and comments to the camera that she has to be mindful to dance for Jesus "and not for the flesh." Clearly, making little girls afraid of desires they don't even have yet is good parenting.
 
Abdul Alhazred said:
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...Get a load of the picture at the link. :eek:


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Actually, the picture is only creepy in the context of the article. And it's real creepy whenever the words "sex", "Little girl", and "daddy" are used in the same sentence.








Real, REAL creepy...
 
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Abdul Alhazred said:
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No sex please, we're daddy's little girls (AFP via Yahoo)

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This seems an odd way to waste money, and a perverse spin on the old debutante ball, coming out, quinceañera, what have you.

Those ceremonies all declare to the local social world "she's ripe" (and I can afford to throw this party) where the ceremony you linked to seems to declare "she's not ripe yet."

OK, guy, she's not ripe yet, wait until she's ripe to throw the party. You will get soaked for her wedding as well, why not save the dough for the wedding, or the debutante ball?

Are you that obsessed with throwing parties for your spoiled little daddy's girl?

Full dicslosure: a few months back, a roughly year long process was concluded (somewhat over my initial objection) wherein my daughter was in one of these deb cotillions.

My comment to some of the other dad's involved was:

"So, we toss out a few grand each to get used to how painful it will be to throw a wedding."

The killer was the gal running the thing as dominatix (sorry, head of the deb police) was insistent on there being no booze of any kind . .. blah blah blah.

My fellow dads and I took exception to this, as we funded the entire exercise. Being resourceful men, we found a way to ensure that we had sufficient discrete libation to lubricate away the evening's pain in the wallet, and did our best to enjoy ourselves. It was a pretty good party. My daughter, indeed all of the young ladies, were radiant.

The young ladies and all of their friends, whom they invited, seemed to have a good time. All the moms had a good time oohing and aahing over the dresses and such, so we old farts congratulated ourselves afterward with "being able to throw a good party."

We didn't deserve much praise. The head of the deb police deserves the credit, since she did the hard work of setting up the details.

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Of course the pic means nothing without context.

As for the "coming out" party business, isn't that more like an introduction to adult society? As it might be a Bat Mitzvah party without the religious overtones?
 
Cello Man said:
Seems to me that a "Purity Ball" is like a car show, except for hymens.
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Actually it's more of a cattle market since the fathers also take their (older) sons along, so people can make sure their precious prince gets grade A meat.
 
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