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Freed Prisoner Misses Gitmo

subgenius

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Sounds great. How can I git to Gitmo?

"Cuba? It was great, say boys freed from US prison camp

James Astill meets teenagers released from Guantanamo Bay who recall the place fondly

Saturday March 6, 2004
The Guardian

Asadullah strives to make his point, switching to English lest there be any mistaking him. "I am lucky I went there, and now I miss it. Cuba was great," said the 14-year-old, knotting his brow in the effort to make sure he is understood.
Not that Asadullah saw much of the Caribbean island. During his 14-month stay, he went to the beach only a couple of times - a shame, as he loved to snorkel. And though he learned a few words of Spanish, Asadullah had zero contact with the locals.

He spent a typical day watching movies, going to class and playing football. He was fascinated to learn about the solar system, and now enjoys reciting the names of the planets, starting with Earth. Less diverting were the twice-monthly interrogations about his knowledge of al-Qaida and the Taliban. But, as Asadullah's answer was always the same - "I don't know anything about these people" - these sessions were merely a bore: an inevitably tedious consequence, Asadullah suggests with a shrug, of being held captive in Guantanamo Bay.
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The food in the camp was delicious, the teaching was excellent, and his warders were kind. "Americans are good people, they were always friendly, I don't have anything against them," he said. "If my father didn't need me, I would want to live in America."

Asadullah is even more sure of this. "Americans are great people, better than anyone else," he said, when found at his elder brother's tiny fruit and nut shop in a muddy backstreet of Kabul. "Americans are polite and friendly when you speak to them. They are not rude like Afghans. If I could be anywhere, I would be in America. I would like to be a doctor, an engineer _ or an American soldier."

This might seem to jar with the prevailing opinion of Guantanamo among human rights groups. An American jail on foreign soil, Guantanamo was designed, according to Amnesty International, to deny prisoners "many of their most basic rights", which in America would include special provision for the "speedy trial" of juveniles. But, seized in the remotest wilds of violent Afghanistan, the boys knew practically nothing of their rights, and expected less.

They were also unaware that the American defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, had described Guantanamo's inmates as "hard-core, well-trained terrorists" and "among the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the Earth."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1163435,00.html

Ah, snorkelling in the Cuban sun. It is snowing here in Detroit today.
 
Stockholm syndrome? :D

I've never had any doubt our Marines treat the prisoners with decency and respect.

Naqibullah, Asadullah and Mohammed Ismail were moved into one large room, which was never locked. They were taught Pashto (their own language), English, Arabic, maths, science, art and, for two months, Islam. "The American soldiers ate pork but they said we must never do that because we were Muslim," said Naqibullah. "They were very strict about Islam."

I am also surprised to see this in the Guardian. They are usually pretty anti-American in their reporting. Kudos to them for this story.
 
Jeez, makes me want to go to a blasted wasteland like Afghanistan and get caught by US troops.
 
The food in the camp was delicious, the teaching was excellent, and his warders were kind.

I've eaten the chow in Gitmo. If those kids think that stuff was worth mentioning, then they must have had it really bad in Afghanistan.
 
While we are all praising the cuisine at club med gitmo, anyone want to trade places with one of the guests?

I'm glad that the US army treats the children it imprisons without trial well...so whats the outcome with this kid? was he "among the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the Earth." ? Or has it just taken 14 months of imprisonment of a child to figure out someone has cocked up?
 
The boys never spoke to Guantanamo's other prisoners - "lots of Arabs and Afghans," according Naqibullah.

It doesn't sound like these boys were ever really treated as "enemy combatants" after it had been established during the first couple of weeks of their detention that they were most likely in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't know that we can draw any conclusions about the treatment of the other prisoners at Gitmo from the treatment of three teenagers who were never facing the prospect of a military tribunal.
 
Luke T. said:


I've eaten the chow in Gitmo. If those kids think that stuff was worth mentioning, then they must have had it really bad in Afghanistan.
Should be kept in mind....the conditions in Afghanistan and most of the third world. Compared to that even a prison at least affords "3 squares and a place to flop."
 
subgenius said:

Should be kept in mind....the conditions in Afghanistan and most of the third world. Compared to that even a prison at least affords "3 squares and a place to flop."

Or, as it is put in the psychiatric stabilization biz, three hots and a cot.
 

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