Fred Phelps: Anti-War Leftist

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Mark said:
Truth doesn't matter to those on the Right. Only the mission matters.
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Exactly. Unlike the left the right is only interested in agenda. Everything is fair game. So you see it is easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. You only need to discern their political persuasion. It makes life easy that way. Thanks Mark. It's always nice to see that that the heart of critical thinking is still beating at JREF.
 
I don't Phelps is even on the right-left spectrum. He's so nuts. If politics were a coin, the right would be tails, the left would be heads, and Phelps would be a stale muffin on a tray made out of Legos on a Kmart dinette set on Mars.

He does seem fairly anti-war, although his reasons are beyond bizarre.
 
Sean Hannity is one of the worse. Worse than Limbaugh, arguably worse than Coulter (if only because of his access to the public).

Why do people endlessly sneer at uninformed left-leaning celebrities when there are so many misinformed, self-consciously movement-oriented right-wing douche-bags hurting America? Perhaps the former is due in large part to the latter...?
 
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RandFan said:
Exactly. Unlike the left the right is only interested in agenda. Everything is fair game. So you see it is easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. You only need to discern their political persuasion. It makes life easy that way. Thanks Mark. It's always nice to see that that the heart of critical thinking is still beating at JREF.
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This from a guy who still thinks the Iraq War was a good idea (for whatever reason Bush is spinning this week).

I'm so crushed. :rolleyes:
 
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Mark said:
This from a guy who still thinks the Iraq War was a good idea (for whatever reason Bush is spinning this week).

I'm so crushed. :rolleyes:
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So, attacking me personally is a logical response? This is a red letter day.
 
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RandFan said:
So, attacking me personally is a logical response? This is a red letter day.
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Don't know who the people are you're discussing but it's been a slow day and I want to get into a discussion with somebody. So I'll just say that from what I've seen your first post to Mark sounded like a personal attack.
 
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RandFan said:
So, attacking me personally is a logical response? This is a red letter day.
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Ah yes, the standard conservative whine. You attack me, then get all offended when I respond in kind. Do you people ever get tired of being such blatant hypocrites?

(Trick question: the answer is clearly "no.")
 
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LucyR said:
Don't know who the people are you're discussing but it's been a slow day and I want to get into a discussion with somebody. So I'll just say that from what I've seen your first post to Mark sounded like a personal attack.
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Thanks for noticing. :)
 
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LucyR said:
Don't know who the people are you're discussing but it's been a slow day and I want to get into a discussion with somebody. So I'll just say that from what I've seen your first post to Mark sounded like a personal attack.
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Hi Lucy,

No, I attacked his logic. Mark engaged in a very common fallacy. Because some members of a group acted in a particular way then the entire group must be the cause or share the behavior. It would be the same if I pointed out that ALF and ELF engaged in criminal behavior and drew a conclusion about the left on the facts regarding ALF.

What I do or do not believe about the war has no bearing and is a red herring.
 
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Mark said:
Ah yes, the standard conservative whine. You attack me, then get all offended when I respond in kind. Do you people ever get tired of being such blatant hypocrites?

(Trick question: the answer is clearly "no.")
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I didn't attack you. I attacked your logic which is fallacious.
 
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Sorry Upchurch.
 
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Mark said:
Do you people ever get tired of being such blatant hypocrites?

(Trick question: the answer is clearly "no.")
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Begging the question. Fallacy. Who is you people?
 
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RandFan said:
Hi Lucy,

No, I attacked his logic. Mark engaged in a very common fallacy. Because some members of a group acted in a particular way then the entire group must be the cause or share the behavior. It would be the same if I pointed out that ALF and ELF engaged in criminal behavior and drew a conclusion about the left on the facts regarding ALF.

What I do or do not believe about the war has no bearing and is a red herring.
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So, your personal attack was justified because you were (in your head) correct.

What a load. Conservatives are lying hypocrites as your last few posts have clearly proven...therefore I am perfectly justified in saying it. Just playing by your rules here.
 
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RandFan said:
Hi Lucy,

No, I attacked his logic. Mark engaged in a very common fallacy. Because some members of a group acted in a particular way then the entire group must be the cause or share the behavior. It would be the same if I pointed out that ALF and ELF engaged in criminal behavior and drew a conclusion about the left on the facts regarding ALF.

What I do or do not believe about the war has no bearing and is a red herring.
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Well it was just your last two sentences really.
 
Upchurch said:
Boy, you guys are sucking all the fun out my Hannity-bashing.
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He is deserving of bashing. Sadly some people can't do it without resorting to fallacy and bashing everyone that shares Hanity's politics to some degree.
 
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