Fox News bias against Dean:

[Sundog]

The front-page teaser for this story is

Dean's 'Straight Talk' in Question
New HBO series raises eyebrows

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97397,00.html

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. This is to me a clear example of Fox's bias. Do we ever see a Republican's statements examined in this way?

Someone explain why it was wrong for Dean to use a clever line in his speech that came from someone else?

I think the Dean camp is right in the line at the end of the article; it's an act of desparation. Note that this isn't an AP or a Reuters story, it's a FOX story.

 

[headscratcher4]

Not that Fox noted, but I can think of 16 words in a Bush speech that came from "someone" else, and that have demonstrated US incredibility to an entire, skeptical world. At least, we know where Dean got the line, and he never thought that anyone would think it was original to him....

 

[DaChew]

Do they say in the story that it was wrong for Dean to use the line? I found the story interesting from the standpoint of seeing inside a bit of campaign strategy.

 

[Sundog]

Do they say in the story that it was wrong for Dean to use the line? I found the story interesting from the standpoint of seeing inside a bit of campaign strategy.

The implication is quite clear the Dean did something sneaky here, otherwise it's a complete non-story.

 

[Nie Trink Wasser]

regardless of what bias Fox has, the story is real. It happened.

It's just another great example of how scripted and phony Carville puppets are. Hopefully this one won't get to act like a president.

 

[DaChew]

The implication is quite clear the Dean did something sneaky here, otherwise it's a complete non-story.

It's not a complete non-story. Dean is supposedly a straight talker, he (or his staff) took credit for a line that was considered fairly significant during the debate, he retracted that after he was warned by Carville that it was on tape.

Besides, the origin of the line would still be interesting without any of that. That makes it newsworthy.

What difference does it make, by the way, that AP and Reuters didn't write the story? Are they the only credible news sources?

 

[headscratcher4]

It's just another great example of how scripted and phony Carville

Nie: Just so I understand, are you suggesting that Bush, Chaney, Arnold, whoever you like on the Republican side is ultimately less scripted? Your sense that it might suggest that Dean is less of a straight-shooter than he likes to project is valid. However, what you wrote suggests that the sin is limited to accolytes of Carville, as opposed to those who follow Rove, Ailes, Luntz, Morris (now that he is so Republican). Methinks you do protest too much...they are all scripted and let advisors help them look clever, strong, inteligent, what ever.


Dean isn't any different in this regard than Bush, nor is Carville any different in this regard than Rove or even his wife.

 

[Sundog]

It's not a complete non-story. Dean is supposedly a straight talker, he (or his staff) took credit for a line that was considered fairly significant during the debate, he retracted that after he was warned by Carville that it was on tape.

Besides, the origin of the line would still be interesting without any of that. That makes it newsworthy.

What difference does it make, by the way, that AP and Reuters didn't write the story? Are they the only credible news sources?

Quite obviously (I would have thought), that only Fox reporters- or people predisposed to attack the left for anything whatsoever - think it's a story.

So his staff didn't know about the borrowed line? What on Earth is that evidence of? How silly.

 

[Sundog]

regardless of what bias Fox has, the story is real. It happened.

It's just another great example of how scripted and phony Carville puppets are. Hopefully this one won't get to act like a president.

Bush isn't scripted? More and more so, in light of his inability to speak extemporaneously?

 

[Nie Trink Wasser]

for me (and many others who feel the way I do) Clinton, Gore and Dean seem like actors.....media creations who do and say things based on how popular it will be.

Bush has advisors, but seems to be more of a genuine person who is actually passionate about what he's saying however bumbled it may be.

Clinton only seemed to be passionate when he needed to get away with a lie and I didn't like him. He was and still is one of the most phoney political figures (Al Gore is 2nd) to me.

 

[Grammatron]

for me (and many others who feel the way I do) Clinton, Gore and Dean seem like actors.....media creations who do and say things based on how popular it will be.

Bush has advisors, but seems to be more of a genuine person who is actually passionate about what he's saying however bumbled it may be.

Clinton only seemed to be passionate when he needed to get away with a lie and I didn't like him. He was and still is one of the most phoney political figures (Al Gore is 2nd) to me.

Yes, Bush certainly NEVER EVER did anyting to increase his popularity. I bet he never increased steel tariffs to get some votes or put troops in Africa to get some African-American votes. Yeah, he always does what's right

 

[DaChew]

Quite obviously (I would have thought), that only Fox reporters- or people predisposed to attack the left for anything whatsoever - think it's a story.

Well, I guess you thought wrong. Dean took credit for the line, it wasn't his, Fox reported it. You can say it's an insignificant controversy and I will agree. That doesn't mean it's not worth reporting. As I said, I found the story behind the line and its origin interesting.

So his staff didn't know about the borrowed line? What on Earth is that evidence of? How silly.

I think it's unlikely that his staff didn't know where the line came from but what difference does that make and when did I say that was proof of anything? You are the one claiming this story is another indication of bias by Fox.
The only thing that seems silly here is your hyperactive bias detector.

 

[corplinx]

This is nothing compared to the lynching foxnews did on Trent Lott.

I do agree though that the coverage of the Dean quip is excessive, especially since he didn't claim the quote was original himself.

 

[Mike B.]

for me (and many others who feel the way I do) Clinton, Gore and Dean seem like actors.....media creations who do and say things based on how popular it will be.

What about Ronald Reagan?

Not that there is anything wrong with being an actor...

But I think as Headscratcher said, there is a lot of reading of scripts by just about everyone...

 

[headscratcher4]

.Bush has advisors, but seems to be more of a genuine person who is actually passionate about what he's saying however bumbled it may be. [/B]

Is it possible you are that naive?

 

[SRW]

Quite obviously (I would have thought), that only Fox reporters- or people predisposed to attack the left for anything whatsoever - think it's a story.

So his staff didn't know about the borrowed line? What on Earth is that evidence of? How silly.

Oh really; and why would you not say, quite odviously, only people predisposed to support the left, would not think its a story. Is your bias showing a little here.

Dean is the Democratic front runner, what he says and does should be news.