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FOX News and Stormfront

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I posted this yesterday, but it seems the Underwear Gnomes have stolen it!.

From Fair
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The Fox reporter who did a report on a white supremacist website without including a single critical voice posted a message on the site's discussion board, saying, "I hope this can show those of you who have little faith in the media that there are journalists who take pride in being factual and unbiased." She elaborated on what "unbiased" means in an interview with Think Progress:
When asked why she didn’t include some voices that were critical of StormFront, she replied she did the story exactly as she was told to and that officials at the network were very pleased with her coverage.
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Ah, the unbiased media!
 
This might be disturbing but...a). it is Fox...fair and balanced, you decide. b). it is sadly like the case a couple of month ago involving C-Span, where they declined to cover a speech by the woman (Lipstadt?) who successfully sued David Irving in the United Kingdom for libel (over his holocaust denile), because she wouldn't be paired with broadcast of a speech by Irving (the producer argued for "balance").

In short, it is all I expect. Producers who think that balance is giving ID the same cred. as scientific evolution, producers who think that holocaust historians must be "balanced" with holocaust deniers -- yet the same producers rarely think that psychics and religious fanatics need to be balanced with skeptics and athiests.

So sad. So expected. Happy New Year.
 
Well, in all "fairness" I often hear stories on NPR that are very far left-leaning, with no dissenting voices AT ALL.
 
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Well, in all "fairness" I often hear stories on NPR that are very far left-leaning, with no dissenting voices AT ALL.
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Which types of bias do you find most prevalent on NPR...

Here's the possibilities as I see it where one could point out concrete bias:

- bias by distortion of fact
- bias in selection of story
- bias by omission of significant detail
- bias by presenting disputed facts as undisputed

I tend to find them centrist--could our differing opinion be because you're looking at them slightly from the right, and I'm looking at them slightly from the left? To sort out whether it's just a difference in our relative positions, rather than actual bias, an examination of those four qualities might be useful.
 
First of all, if you follow the links in the story, you will find that it was not broadcast on the national Fox news. It was broadcast on the 10 p.m. local news on a South Carolina Fox affiliate.

South Carolina. Yeeeeee-haaawwww!

Anyway. If you want to see the actual broadcast, the Fox affiliate has removed it from their site, but Stormfront saved a copy and you can watch it, with their (Stormfront's) comments typed over it, by clicking here.

The reporter appears to be clueless.

ETA: The full text of the report can be found here.
 
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gnome, I am not right-wing. In fact, I agreed with the point of a recent NPR story on abortion... but I also noticed that the piece was utterly and completely one-sided. I also noticed the same thing in a piece about some kind of woo-woo thing. I can't remember what it was. Maybe "alternative medicine" or something, and NPR presented a pro-woo woo story with no skeptical rebuttal. Stuff like that.
 
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Well, in all "fairness" I often hear stories on NPR that are very far left-leaning, with no dissenting voices AT ALL.
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And what NPR is that, the one on Planet X ? I challenge you to prove your statement Mr. Investigator, they often do the piss poor representation thing where they put on whoever 'represents' the other side and just let them spout whatever nonsense.

I want the evidences please.
 
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gnome, I am not right-wing. In fact, I agreed with the point of a recent NPR story on abortion... but I also noticed that the piece was utterly and completely one-sided. I also noticed the same thing in a piece about some kind of woo-woo thing. I can't remember what it was. Maybe "alternative medicine" or something, and NPR presented a pro-woo woo story with no skeptical rebuttal. Stuff like that.
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I heard a number of abortion stories, what is the alleged bias that you heard,? The fact that Nina Totenberg used an equal number of different phrases to describe a female person under the age of eighteen. Evidences?

Maybe "alternative medicine" or something, and NPR presented a pro-woo woo story with no skeptical rebuttal. Stuff like that
And was it news or an op-ed piece, was it on The Wild World of Woo , New Dimensions or Life on Earth, those shows are definitly woo, but they are also not NPR. So which is it?
 
I would ask, what exactly piece did you hear, which lead you to presume bias? A lot of pieces are not news, but are "All Things Considered" or field reports *about* subjects related to controvertial subjects, and not all of them are "reports" per se. I've heard a great many biographies of wounded and fallen soldiers on NPR without the slightest crtisicism of the war. A biography about a soldier isn't a piece about the war, so that's ok. Likewise, a biography about a 16 year old girl who gets an abortion without her parent's consent isn't required to give a lot air time to abortion critics.
 
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gnome, I am not right-wing. In fact, I agreed with the point of a recent NPR story on abortion... but I also noticed that the piece was utterly and completely one-sided. I also noticed the same thing in a piece about some kind of woo-woo thing. I can't remember what it was. Maybe "alternative medicine" or something, and NPR presented a pro-woo woo story with no skeptical rebuttal. Stuff like that.
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Accepted... just looking for the bias in relation to my previously proposed criteria. Lack of rebuttal can be for reasons other than bias, depending on the story. Or it can be a shameless bias. That one's hard to nail.
 
I listen to NPR every day for an hour or two. As a member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, it is my duty to keep an eye on the enemies of the state. So it pains me greatly to have to admit that I find NPR is more "fair and balanced" than just about any other media outlet.

As a result, NPR is my primary news source. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I have watched NBC, CBS, ABC, or Fox. I occasionally watch the local affiliates' local news, which is not the same as watching the national news. The local news is flavored by regional tastes and has little connection to the parent organization's flavor. That is why it is important to distinguish the source of the Stormfront story. A local news program in South Carolina.
 
Luke T. said:
I listen to NPR every day for an hour or two. As a member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, it is my duty to keep an eye on the enemies of the state. So it pains me greatly to have to admit that I find NPR is more "fair and balanced" than just about any other media outlet.
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I too.

I think that it is misdirection from the International Jewish Conspiracy.
 
I watched the article and while I thought it was a poor piece of journalism, I didn't think it made StormFront sympathetic either.

Oh, and while I do listen to NPR, I also think it has a liberal bias.
 
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