"for what exists evil?" versus "for what exists good?"

Plathagoras

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Evil and Good are in direct opposition.

Evil rules by the principle of servitude to Its Master.

Good exists for the mutual benefit of all.
 
Evil is preying on other people to benefit yourself. Good is getting off your ass and doing things for yourself.


Civilization is the taming of the hunter/predator instinct to go take things you did not produce. This allows producers to be secure in the product of their efforts, encouraging such efforts as people better their own lives.


So...good is taming the instinct to go take things you did not produce, which requires intelligence. Evil is behaving in the ways of animals.
 
Evil is preying on other people to benefit yourself. ...
Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Is it evil to fight a war if it means you won't survive if you don't? I'm talking theoretical war here, not the usual political fare. Say your country/tribe is going to die of starvation if you don't take over the territory of another country/tribe.
 
Evil is in the eye of the beholder.
Tell me about it.
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First time we ran into one, that central eye killed my mage.
(I still have my copy of that book ... )
Is it evil to fight a war if it means you won't survive if you don't? I'm talking theoretical war here, not the usual political fare. Say your country/tribe is going to die of starvation if you don't take over the territory of another country/tribe.
Jus ad bellum.
 
Human beings make these value judgments. It's in our evolutionary heritage to have a number of characteristics. We are capable of altruism, cooperative behavior...Etc. Generally felt to be "good".
We are also subject to violent rages, territoriality, and fear of the "Other". These are often characterized as "bad" or "evil".
Until you are attacked by a stranger, or your country is invaded....
 
Good and evil are subjective. Evil is that which harms me or the things/people I care about.

Since it is subjective for each person, 'good' and 'evil' will overlap all over the place.

They aren't really that useful of terms.
 
Evil and Good are in direct opposition.

Evil rules by the principle of servitude to Its Master.

Good exists for the mutual benefit of all.


Nonsense.

Many of us would regard some or all of your statements to be either wrong or meaningless.

I regard all three of them as being so.
 
The idea of the concept of good and evil is evil. Wait a second .... it's a good idea, but .... no wait a second. Neither of them are good ideas ..... oh bloody hell never ******* mind :mad:
 
Are value judgements objectively worthless because humans made them?
Worthless? Isn't that a human value judgement? :D

But seriously, there may be evolutionary and social stability reasons for certain value judgements. Maybe humans "made" them or maybe they just encoded the value judgments that came naturally. After all, many animals protect their children. So is motherly love a human value judgement or is it something that enables our species and others to ensure their survival?

Sometimes even the silliest of value judgments can be tracked to why they originally appeared. That doesn't mean that they are still useful judgments, but they might have been at one point, e.g. "eating pork" may have been very dangerous during a trichinosis outbreak, so it became "evil" in order to keep people from dying.
 
Evil and Good are in direct opposition.

Evil rules by the principle of servitude to Its Master.

Good exists for the mutual benefit of all.

Believe me, I get the pull these incantations have, but when we're able to shed our fear of think, what we find is that it's actually offensive to idiot down a thing as complex as the human mind.

Take treachery. Hypothetically speaking, let's say you're the man in this scenario:

"Overrun by some invader, and seeing his wife raped, a man who obeyed his voices would, of course, immediately strike out, and thus probably be killed. But if a man could be one thing on the inside and another thing on the outside, could harbor his hatred and revenge behind a mask of acceptance of the inevitable, such a man would survive." *

a. If you let your wife get raped, you survive, and get to create more babies.

b. If you stop the rape, you and the wife die, and with you, the tribe.

Do you let your wife get raped?



*source

 
Evil and Good are in direct opposition.

Evil rules by the principle of servitude to Its Master.

Good exists for the mutual benefit of all.

Nonsense.

Many of us would regard some or all of your statements to be either wrong or meaningless.

I regard all three of them as being so.
Actually, they make perfect sense with just a minor addition:

Evil and Good are in direct opposition in bed.
Evil rules by the principle of servitude to Its Master in bed.
Good exists for the mutual benefit of all in bed.

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