For Ghost Hunters: Spirit Orbs

It just makes you wonder why the person can't take the next logical step. If you admit 'X' is caused by dust, then 'Z' which looks identical to 'X' should also be caused by dust. But no. It has to be a spirit orb.:rolleyes:

Steve S.
 
Yeah, I found that page because I was showing my son some digital pictures I had just taken and there were 'spirit orbs' in some of them. I looked for a web page about spirit orbs and found that one. When we saw the pictures of 'real' spirit orbs, we both broke out laughing because one of them looks exactly the same as the 'natural' orb shown on the same page! Another one of the spirit orbs looks more like a streetlight to me. I also read through the text on that page and there were some real howlers in there. Anyway, that page was pretty funny so thought I'd post it here.
 
How do we distinguish between ghost,spirit and spirit orb??? Is an orb a "baby" ghost?
Someone must invent these ridiculous concepts and put it in a book somewhere and thus the myth is born.Same with white feathers being a sign of spirits.Says who? What source of scientific reference states this?
 
I remember when I first watched one of the ghost hunter shows and a bright white dot went across the screen, and thought "man, it's really dusty there." Suddenly the people on the show were all excited because they had "Spirit Orbs." I looked closer trying to see what they were talking about, thinking I had missed something. Then they replayed the footage with circles around the white specks. I turned it off and went to bed.
 
The "spirit orb" phenomenon is what inspired my screen name. I was online hunting for "ghost" pictures and about 90% show "orbs". The rest seem to be camera straps, breath vapor, camera flares, double exposures, long exposures, etc... but mostly camera straps. (they all swear their cameras don't have straps, LOL ooo weee oooo!)
These are called "vortexes" :rolleyes:

As far as where they get the different theories, its mostly mish mash from other ghost hunters. No one source is considered the expert on the subject.

Edited to remove link - the site was hacked.
 
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The paranormal group in my area focuses primarily on orbs and evp's. Ghost sightings are too few so it makes sense for people in the business to focus on orbs as potential spirit energy, since they're so common and practically anyone can record them under the right conditions.

Orb's and EVP's are the perfect phenomena to make ghost hunting more interesting to the masses. People need something to do while waiting for that spirit to manifest. Who has the patience to wait hours for something to happen? Go ahead and snap pictures and make recordings and suddenly that's all the spirit evidence one needs. You can create an entire industry around this phenomena.
 
man i would have thought with the internet and photoshop the ghost picutres would be really cool...it was better in theold days where they at least did double exposures to get creepy faces in the bg of photos...
 
Someone in the 9/11 CT thread mentioned how annoying it was when CT dolts pick up on a word without even using it correctly and then beat it to death. In that context it was "squibs."

I wish I could wave my hand and deprive these doofuses (doofi?) of the word "anomaly." Orb fans and people like Hoagland label anything they can't immediately identify as an anomaly and in an instant give it the air of something mysterious and supernatural or hail it as evidence of a conspriracy. Dolts.

eta: On the thread about the video of the orbs in the church, someone posted a link to an explanation of why these dust particles appear to have internal structure. Anyone have it handy?
 
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I was annoyed by that, too.

Squib: A very tiny explosive used in movie sets to simulate bullet holes being made in a surface.

Anomaly: Something irregular or unexpected. Orbs are hardly unexpected.
 
I dislike the orb nonsense, too, but my all-time favorite are the camera-strap "demons." Coast to Coast puts one of those stupid photos up at least once or twice a week.

Morons.
 
bjb - thanks, best belly laugh for a while.

Here's a thought - we've got "Fundies Say the Darndest Things" and now "Conspiracy Theorists Say the Darndest Things" - is there room for a "Paranormalists Say the Darndest Things" site?
 
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Please Ghoster Oester is the laughing stock of the paranormal. Even other investigators see him as a joke. Ask most serious investigators and they'll say if its an orb on film its probably one of a dozen natural explinations. Oester is also a false authority. His ministry is through ulc.org who will ordain litterally any one. His doctorate(a doctorate of divinity which is honorary to begin with) is mail order from the same people.
 
From the sight mentioned in the OP:
Common sense is very important in ghost research.

I don't have a funny comment, I just thought this quote was representative of the whole "ghost hunting" attitude.
 
Someone in the 9/11 CT thread mentioned how annoying it was when CT dolts pick up on a word without even using it correctly and then beat it to death. In that context it was "squibs."

I wish I could wave my hand and deprive these doofuses (doofi?) of the word "anomaly." Orb fans and people like Hoagland label anything they can't immediately identify as an anomaly and in an instant give it the air of something mysterious and supernatural or hail it as evidence of a conspriracy. Dolts.
Even more annoying is the way people see the term "UFO" and think it means "alien spacecraft". It simply means a Flying Object that hasn't yet been identified. An alien spacecraft, by definition, has been identified so cannot be a UFO.
 
"Orbs" are a prime example of circuar reasoning. It starts with "ghost hunters" surveying an area in which ghost activity is presumed to occur, but come up empty-handed except for some blobs on their photographs. There's no indication that these blobs are markers of paranormal activity except that they were spotted in an area where paranormal activity was already presumed to be occurring. Therefore, the "ghost hunters" reason, the blobs are evidence of paranormal activity, and in subsequent surveillances, the presence of those blobs is claimed to itself be the indicator of paranormal activity. Thus, "no ghosts but there is dust" becomes "there's dust, therefore there are ghosts."
Ridiculous.
 
I personally think orbs came to prominence simply because you can reliably take photos of them without being forced to fake it.

It must be hard to be an honest ghost hunter when you know deep down that you've composited every image of a translucent little girl on your website. Orb photos allow them to keep a much clearer conscience.

As for ghostwebs, I just pray (figuratively speaking) for someone to hack that site and swap one of the `orb' photos and one of the dust photos just to check whether anyone would notice :D
 
I got into a bit of an argument with the inlaws who had some "unexplained pictures" they liked to pass around. I made a side comment to my wife about one of them at first, but it got picked up and I quickly got flak from several relatives who were convinced there were odd things afoot in the snapshots. I repeatedly tried to back out of the argument, saying I didn't really care what they believed (although in nicer terms) but it was really a wierd scene. I think most of them were happy to hear my side, and probably believed me... I just aggravated a few of them.

The people with the pictures are smokers. Heavy smokers, in fact. One has since quit, but in two pictures the "odd ghostly images" were clearly smoke, probably exhaled by someone just to the side of the cameraman, or by the cameraman himself. Close up shots of smoke + flash = ghostly shapes. That was widely accepted, but a few hardcore ghosties wanted me to look at the others, demanding I identify instantly what the source of several artifacts were.

One was the camera strap. Everyone was dubious until they looked carefully at the picture and could clearly see the difference between the nylon strap and plastic widget that modifies the length. I think if you could have seen "Kodak" stamped on it the ghosties would have still argued, though.

Another was probably also the strap, although it wasn't as clear. I didn't win too many people over on that one, but the one from above made them pretty skeptical that it was paranormal rather than just unexplained.

After the smoke and strap pics got passed around, I got a little backup. A couple people excitedly passed pictures back and forth, putting out suggestions as to what they might be. They wanted me to be a judge of their ideas, much to the annoyance of a couple ghosties. It got pretty spirited (sorry) but in a friendly "that's not a bug! yes it is!" sort of way.

Thumbs, dust orbs and a sleeve (or curtain) killed off a few more ghosts, and one seemed to be a double-exposure. There was a cool effect on one side of the picture that I pointed out looked like a picture of a house (window and porch laying over the people) and that got picked up since the shot was taken inside, and the layout of the window+porch matched the house the shot was taken in.

Anyway, the upshot was the different reactions. A couple people wavered on different shots, but more between "thumb" and "bug" than "ghost". It sparked some interest in testing the picture effects, too. A digital camera was used to test the dust orbs, and we got a fair ones. The only downside was that some of the picture-owners are now less friendly, having had their prize ghosts demoted to camera straps and badly timed smoke rings. The few who refused to back down continued to fortify their position all night, regardless of the obvious sources of the ghosts. Ah well.
 
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His doctorate(a doctorate of divinity which is honorary to begin with) is mail order from the same people.
It's true(tm). Thanks to 1) one of my professors in the late 1960s and 2) some friends with odd senses of humor and a few bucks to burn in the 1980s, I'm 1) a pastor and 2) a bishop in the same church. Pretty good considering I'm a non-observant Jew and the founder of Bentoism. Go figure.

<inquiring_mind> Does a brandy snifter qualify as a spirit orb? </inquiring_mind>
 

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