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Flight 93.......was it shot down??

Tmy

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Flight 93 has been in the news since that movie just came out. Time to revist the conspiracy theories.

Heres a link to news footage of the crash. Just a hole in the ground with little debris. Do planes that size crash like that?? Do they nosedive? Other plane crashes tend to leave large debris feilds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&search=united 93
 
I thought of a new conspiracy theory today! That "new car smell" is actually a drug that causes people to impulse buy!!!! Why do you think they always want you to take a test drive first??? HMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm?
 
Tmy said:
I thought of a new conspiracy theory today! That "new car smell" is actually a drug that causes people to impulse buy!!!! Why do you think they always want you to take a test drive first??? HMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Y'know, it might be interesting to take that and post it on some CT boards, just to see if anyone buys into it. Consider it an experiment in social engineering.
 
Tmy said:
Flight 93 has been in the news since that movie just came out. Time to revist the conspiracy theories.

Heres a link to news footage of the crash. Just a hole in the ground with little debris. Do planes that size crash like that?? Do they nosedive? Other plane crashes tend to leave large debris feilds.
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Plane crashes tend to leave not much but scorchmarks and destruction the ground.

You're confusing crashes with crash landings. In a crash landing, a trained pilot uses every bit of his training to try to leave as much of the fuselage intact as he can. Do you believe an expertly-trained someone was acting in that capacity on Flight 93?
 
That's a good idea but you need to invest some time in it first. Research what the 'new car smell' molocule is and pick it apart to conclusively demonstrate it's addictive attributes. I'm sure the molocule is sufficently complex that a clever guy with a chemistry background could link at least a portion of it to heroin or coke or lsd or something.
 
If the plane had been shot down, it would have left a much larger debris field. Pieces of the aircraft would have separated from it when missiles struck and would have fallen somewhere along the flight path. If the wreckage was confined to a relatively small space around the impact zone it would tend to discredit any hypothesis that the plane had been shot down.
 
Pyrrho said:
If the plane had been shot down, it would have left a much larger debris field. Pieces of the aircraft would have separated from it when missiles struck and would have fallen somewhere along the flight path. If the wreckage was confined to a relatively small space around the impact zone it would tend to discredit any hypothesis that the plane had been shot down.
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Not when the govt uses its secret lazer death beam!
 
Pretty much any high-angle impact with terrain will disintegrate an airframe as large as the 757. A good example is the ValueJet crash in south Florida.

ValueJet 592 impacted terrain at a near vertical attitude (according to witness reports) with its last speed measured at 260 knots one minute before impact. United 93 impacted terrain at a near vertical attitude at twice that speed.

The other point which is also probably covered in the linked thread is that the US does (did not?) not have a conventional air-to-air misille (AAM) that would destroy an airframe as large as a 757. AAMs use a small HE warhead to expand and spin up a projectile (I forget the technical term) that shreds aircraft parts. The HE blast has limited [edit: "little" is misleading] primary affect unless you happen to have one fly straight up your pipe. Think tightly wrapped layers of chainsaw chain and you're pretty close to there. The HE blast expands and spins up this chain which in turn shreds whatever airframe component it contacts. The spectacular explosion often associated with gun camera footage is the result of exploding jet fuel - not the HE warhead in the AAM.
 
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coalesce said:
SSSHHHHHH!!!! Now everyone knows!

Michael
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erm...it was in SciTech and Signal about six months ago. Two different versions, one for missles, one for people. The missle one operates in the UV spectrum (IIRC) and the people one operates in the MW spectrum. The MW one is in place now (...i think). I forget its effective range but it's very wide. It doesn't kill, it makes those at the wrong end very, very uncomfortable by heating up the exterior of their skin very quickly. More riot control than anything else.
 
Pyrrho said:
If the plane had been shot down, it would have left a much larger debris field. Pieces of the aircraft would have separated from it when missiles struck and would have fallen somewhere along the flight path. If the wreckage was confined to a relatively small space around the impact zone it would tend to discredit any hypothesis that the plane had been shot down.
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I know it wasn't shot down, but they are still finding (small) parts of Pan Am 103 which blew up over Lockerbie even now. Its wreckage was scattered over a huge area. Farmers occasionally plough up small bits of fuselage etc
 
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