Flight 77 FDR Data created before black boxes were recovered

File created on a computer who's clock was incorrectly set?

File last last altered on a computer whose clock has been deliberately reset to a time before the FDR was recovered so as to create "an anomaly" that truthers can nit-pick at?

Hell, I'm sure between us we could come up with any number of wildly implausible scenarios and invent reasons for them to be significant. Seriously though, what do you think it means?

Do you have a chain of custody for that file? Until you can show that it hasn't been tampered with it doesn't prove anything.
 
Yeah, the NTSB often have the clocks on their computers wrong.

If in doubt, claim a truther tampered with it.:rolleyes:
 
"Type: FDR File"

I don't think so.

Which operating system is this, that recognizes "FDR File" as a distinct file type? What's the corresponding filename extension?

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
theauthor said:
Umm...the file was created before they took the box out of the pentagon.

Do you need me to draw a diagram?
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No, but you do need to provide proof of this, otherwise it is speculation.

You keep linking to 911blogger, do you ever think do your own research or think for yourself?
 
Stellafane said:
I know this is rather unskeptical of me. But if something happens 100,000 times in a row, you kind of get the sneaking suspicious it's going to happen again. So considering the source, I'm going out on a limb here and say the explanation is that it's almost certainly irrelevant crap.
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Fallacious argument.

I could just as easily say "the governement have lied lots of times therefore they are lying about 911"
 
CptColumbo said:
No, but you do need to provide proof of this, otherwise it is speculation.

You keep linking to 911blogger, do you ever think do your own research or think for yourself?
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Unfortunately I am not psychic. i don't have the FDR data so I need to rely on someone to tell me when it was created.

If I posted stuff without a source you would claim i was making it up.

Could you please point me to some original research you have posted on this board?
 
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theauthor said:
Fallacious argument.

I could just as easily say "the governement have lied lots of times therefore they are lying about 911"
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Oooh, sooo close -- but there's a difference, you see (or perhaps you don't). The government has indeed been caught in a lie in the past, but in general they tell the truth often enough that you have to suspend judgement until you learn more. The TM, on the other hand, has never produced anything other that the most mindlessly stupid and insane crap, some of it the result of idiocy and ignorance, some the product of demented minds, and the rest outright lies, that only a complete fool would take anything they say even remotely seriously. Go ahead and prove me wrong -- show me one thing, one lousy thing, that the TM ever produced that was previously unknown, relevant, important, and stood up to scrutiny.
 
theauthor said:
Unfortunately I am not psychic. i don't have the FDR data so I need to rely on someone to tell me when it was created.

If I posted stuff without a source you would claim i was making it up.
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or say that you are making a claim with no proof, and rightly so.

Could you please point me to some original research you have posted on this board?
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I had an e-mail exchange with Benjamin Chertoff of Popular Mechanics in the original Loose Change thread that showed that he was not a close relative of Michael Chertoff.

To ronpaulisright's horror I was able to discover that Rep. Ron Paul is older than Sen. McCain.

I talked by phone to members of the ATF in Oklahoma City to get their side of the OKC bombing.

You can do a search to find more, but that's a few I remember off the top of my head.
 
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And the icon looks like Excel. I smell fake.
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I don't.

looks like the file comes in a .fdr format

In the appeal response, the NTSB admits that the requested format is feasible, but insists it is not required to provide it in that format. The NTSB suggests that it is possible to produce it from the American_77.fdr file; however the request is for the data stored in the solid state memory module, not the American_77.fdr file.
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http://www.aal77.com/
 
CptColumbo said:
or say that you are making a claim with no proof, and rightly so.


I had an e-mail exchange with Benjamin Chertoff of Popular Mechanics in the original Loose Change thread that showed that he was not a close relative of Michael Chertoff.

To ronpaulisright's horror I was able to discover that Rep. Ron Paul is older than Sen. McCain.

I talked by phone to members of the ATF in Oklahoma City to get their side of the OKC bombing.

You can do a search to find more, but that's a few I remember off the top of my head.
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You talked to Benjamin chertoff to see if he was a relative, and you talked to the ATF to check the OKC bombing wasnt an inside job.

Wow, thats groundbreaking...did you expect them to admit stuff and get a scoop.

We need you in the police department:

"I talked to the suspect and he says he didnt do it so thats that sorted, let him go boys"

ROFL
 
theauthor said:
You talked to Benjamin chertoff to see if he was a relative, and you talked to the ATF to check the OKC bombing wasnt an inside job.

Wow, thats groundbreaking...did you expect them to admit stuff and get a scoop.

We need you in the police department:

"I talked to the suspect and he says he didnt do it so thats that sorted, let him go boys"

ROFL
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So in your mind an accused person should not be able to defend themselves, you would rather rely on the speculation of people not involved. It's called getting the whole story, not just one side of it.
 
We have established that the .fdr is a genuine file type. We also know, from looking at Aidan Monaghans comments on the blogger post that the flight 93 file is ok and was created after the recovery. So....anyone know why the flight 77 file was created before they even found the black box?
 
theauthor said:
We have established that the .fdr is a genuine file type.
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No, you have not. Your quote concerning the file American_77.fdr confirms only that a file with that name existed. (And note that that is not the same file name that appears in the screen shot posted on 911Blogger. That alone is proof that the file in the screenshot is not an unaltered copy of the file provided by the NTSB.)

You can add any filename extension you want to any file you want. The question I'm asking is how Monaghan's PC would recognize the extension .fdr (or any other extension) as indicating "Type: FDR File."

http://filext.com/file-extension/fdr

Are you sure you guys aren't trying to read data from an embroidery design file by mistake? That would explain a lot, actually...

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
The trouble now is, I've just downloaded the file from the NTSB site you've linked. Would you like to guess what the file creation date was?

I'll give you a hint. It wasn't the file's original creation date.


Yup, that's today's date and I'm willing to wager a small amount that Monaghan's PC put the date he downloaded it on his copy of the file too. So unless he downloaded it before the FDR was pulled from the pentagon, there's something funny going on.

As an aside, it took approximately 30 seconds to create this:


Which shows the file's last modified date as 18th May 1999.
 
Something funny going on?

I certainly don'y believe that of Aidan, like I would of some truthers. He is straight down the line. Where is he getting his last modified dates from?
 
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