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Falsifying the history of WW II

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Checking wiki we read ....
"Start of World War II
In private discussions in 1939, Hitler declared Britain the main enemy to be defeated and that Poland's obliteration was a necessary prelude for that goal."

In my kid's 11th grade history book we read ....
"Hitler was ready to conquer Europe."

In the 9th grade text ...
“Hitler had no interest in avoiding war.”
which, incidentally, I complained about to the publisher and it was changed to...
"Hitler, however, ignored these warnings. He had already made plans to invade Poland.”

For the good account of the beginning of the war see Buchanan's "Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War", for a quick intro see
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ALp2GkpcuzZi/

Also I just chanced on this quick intro to the subject ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCu7IT81gh8

For immediate proof that Hitler did everything he could to avoid war with the west see the photo and caption below showing a Brit reading a leaflet dropped by the Nazis over London promoting a negotiated settlement before a European war began ..
[IMGw=800]https://i.imgur.com/d7ISLnF.jpg[/IMGw]
 
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Yes, neo-nazies do like falsifying the history of WW2 and trying to absolve one of the largest mass murderers and monsters of the history of mankind.

But I'm sorry, Hitler was a warmonger who willingly and for his own evil gains started WW2 .
 
Someone reading a propaganda leaflet: I'm convinced...

What's that, Adolf? You claim you don't know that France and the UK have a treaty with Poland, guaranteeing that they will support Poland if it's invaded? The annexation of the Sudetenland was just a misunderstanding over a map? The Anschluss was an administrative oversight? And, oh, you already have some class of a non-aggression pact with the Soviets?

Blimey!
 
Being a tad unfair aren’t you? I mean who hasn’t accidentally invaded a country or two? You’re out for a stroll with a few of your mates and “oops done it again”.
 
Darat said:
Being a tad unfair aren’t you? I mean who hasn’t accidentally invaded a country or two? You’re out for a stroll with a few of your mates and “oops done it again”.
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To be fair an old teacher of mine once did accidentally drive his tank over the border into a neighbouring country. It didn't really count as an invasion, though, as they only stopped long enough to buy cigarettes before turning around and sneaking back over the border.
 
They did everything they could to avoid a war, except for avoiding a war.
 
I always like how Hitlerbaby felt so threaten by Luxembourg he invaded and annexed it too. I think their army consisted of a single 500 man battalion.

Luxembourgers were like super Spartans and could have conquered all of Germany in a matter of days but fortunately the Nazis attacked first - just in time - to save their country and overwhelmed Luxembourg in a few hours. Lucky Hitler did that who knows what those blood thirsty Luxembourger would have done!!!
 
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Why is it that Nazi apologists are the ones the Third Reich would have hung on hooks at Gestapo HQ for running their mouths?
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Yes and for not being able to read and understanding chapter 14 of Mein Kampf.

As opposed to this, we National Socialists must hold unflinchingly to our aim in foreign policy, namely, to secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitled on this earth.
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And so we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of our prewar period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east.
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If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states.
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Neither western nor eastern orientation must be the future goal of our foreign policy, but an eastern policy in the sense of acquiring the necessary soil for our German people. Since for this we require strength, and since France, the mortal enemy of our nation, inexorably strangles us and robs us of our strength, we must take upon ourselves every sacrifice whose consequences are calculated to contribute to the annihilation of French efforts toward hegemony in Europe.
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http://mondopolitico.com/library/meinkampf/v2c14.htm
 
Some quotes from MK ....

Before coming to Vienna Hitler's view of the Jews is benign,

As I thought that they were persecuted on account of their Faith my aversion to hearing remarks against them grew almost into a feeling of abhorrence.
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However as he engages in political discussions with the Jews his opinion changes:

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I began to hate them.
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In Vienna Hitler is employed as a common worker, and he encounters trade unions, Social Democrats, Jews, and Marxism:

At midday some of my fellow workers used to adjourn to the nearest tavern, while the others remained on the building premises and there ate their midday meal, which in most cases was a very scanty one. These were married men. Their wives brought them the midday soup in dilapidated vessels. Towards the end of the week there was a gradual increase in the number of those who remained to eat their midday meal on the building premises. I understood the reason for this afterwards. They now talked politics.

I drank my bottle of milk and ate my morsel of bread somewhere on the outskirts, while I circumspectly studied my environment or else fell to meditating on my own harsh lot. Yet I heard more than enough. And I often thought that some of what they said was meant for my ears, in the hope of bringing me to a decision. But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged - the nation, because it was held to be an invention of the ‘capitalist’ class (how often I had to listen to that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an instrument in the hands of the bourgeoisie for the exploitation of’ the working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the people, so as to exploit them afterwards; morality, as a badge of stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag in the mud.

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Hitherto my acquaintance with the Social Democratic Party was only that of a mere spectator at some of their mass meetings. I had not the slightest idea of the social-democratic teaching or the mentality of its partisans. All of a sudden I was brought face to face with the products of their teaching and what they called their Weltanschhauung. In this way a few months sufficed for me to learn something which under other circumstances might have necessitated decades of study - namely, that under the cloak of social virtue and love of one’s neighbour a veritable pestilence was spreading abroad and that if this pestilence be not stamped out of the world without delay it may eventually succeed in exterminating the human race.
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Hitler identified the Jews with Marxism and communism (Churchill shared this view see -Zionism versus Bolshevism). The above passages refer to a period before WW I, but were written after WW I and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

Regarding the Bolshevik revolution in Russia

Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic people's Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slave's lot of permanent subjugation.

The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination
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Hitler also identified Jews with the international financiers, and wrote:

As I listened to Gottfried Feder's first lecture about the 'breaking of interest slavery,' I knew at once that this was a theoretical truth which would inevitably be of immense importance for the future of the German people. The sharp separation of stock exchange capital from the national economy offered the possibility of opposing the internationalization of the German economy without at the same time menacing the foundations of an independent national self-maintenance by a struggle against all capital. The development of Germany was much too clear in my eyes for me not to know that the hardest battle would have to be fought, not against hostile nations, but against international capital. In Feder's lecture I sensed a powerful slogan for this coming struggle.

And here again later developments proved how correct our sentiment of those days was. Today the know-it-alls among our bourgeois politicians no longer laugh at us: today even they, in so far as they are not conscious liars, see that international stock exchange capital was not only the greatest agitator for the War, but that especially, now that the fight is over, it spares no effort to turn the peace into a hell.

The fight against international finance and loan capital became the most important point in the program of the German nation's struggle for its economic independence and freedom.
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Hitler believed that the Jews and leftist elements in Germany sabotaged the war effort. Probably the most well known quote from MK is on the big lie:

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
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Darat said:
Being a tad unfair aren’t you? I mean who hasn’t accidentally invaded a country or two? You’re out for a stroll with a few of your mates and “oops done it again”.
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Ehhhhh, it actually happened to a friend of mine. Though in his defense he has a poor sense of direction, it was the seventies and in a rather snowy part of Europe. WW3 did not ensue.
 
So Hitler loathed the Jews because he thought they were Marxists and he detested the Jews because he thought they were capitalists and he hated the Jews because he thought they undermined the German war effort in WWI.

I wonder what a guy with beliefs like that might do if he got control of a large and resentful nation, militarised it and raised entire divisions of fanatical followers.
 
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