Fake video - do you know anything about it?

[sebbiel]

Few days ago one guy posted this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhjkdDRPSo

This video is clearly altered - the plane should be visible there (it was not behind tower) but it isn't. Moreover - there is this white dot coming toward tower and "hitting" it few floors below fireball. I am almost sure this dot was added but I am not able to find the original video. It looks to be here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoE8Uz2ia3M

at about 7:20.

But - there is problem with that video. I used Virtual Dub to take frames from that videos and compare them to each other. Unfortunately this video with plane looks strange - few frames are misplaced and plane is changing its position. So I obviously can't use it because it would create an avalanche of words like "you see! it is faked! CIA did it!".

Maybe someone already explained this missing plane and white dot or know where I can find an unaltered video?

 

[Brainache]

I think you'll find that the white dot in the first video is the plane. It is difficult to see the whole thing, but I suspect that is a compression artifact.

The video has such low resolution that the details are lost. If you could find the original camera tape, you would see more, but you'd probably need an old Betacam suite to watch it.

 

[NutCracker]

Every time I see such footage my stomach turns. It reminds me how utterly insane these Truthers, including our Tony "no natural cause can explain the collapses" Szamboti are. Freakin' fuel laden wide body jets flew into them at near near cruising speed, I want to shout into their brains. That the latter is not a fruitful endeavour, only exemplifies their insanity.

 

[Reactor drone]

I think you'll find that the white dot in the first video is the plane. It is difficult to see the whole thing, but I suspect that is a compression artifact.

The video has such low resolution that the details are lost. If you could find the original camera tape, you would see more, but you'd probably need an old Betacam suite to watch it.

The white dot is on the wrong side to be the plane. I'd be interested to know whose footage it was though. That angle wasn't in the second compilation video and the audio seems to be taken from a different clip.

Since it's a short clip the plane might be hidden behind the towers rather than being edited out.

 

[Slayhamlet]

This isn't fake. The plane is behind the towers.

Compare it with some other angles:

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Edit: Here's the original video, I believe:

This is footage from Devin Clark of the second impact and the collapse of both tower, filmed from one penn plaza on Sept.11 2001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jIFN3jkJc

Edit #2: Hell, it's even pointed out in the comments of sebbiel's video. Whoops.

Ok dude wanna know the truth? I know 911wtcplanes irl and he made this video for fun he edited it so the plane dissapear, so normally from this angle we see the plane its just that he edited it, so what ur saying about the plane coming from behind if false watch devin clark flight 175 video ull see

 

[A W Smith]

Busted, the truth "movement" faking it.




Full screen reveals the lighter sky blue rectangle "fill" where the plane is in the original video. So the truth movement has come to this? Erasing the plane and victims of flight 175? Real classy. And they wonder why their movement is going backward? I suppose they take their lessons from Jones.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Oh, so they actually did edit the plane out. I figured the video had just been deceitfully cut short.

And the white thing was edited in as well. Stupid.

 

[Pardalis]

Boy, truthers are getting more and more desperate.

Instead of accepting reality for what it is, they decide to alter reality to make it fit their claims.

Pathetic.

 

[A W Smith]

I think you'll find that the white dot in the first video is the plane. It is difficult to see the whole thing, but I suspect that is a compression artifact.

The video has such low resolution that the details are lost. If you could find the original camera tape, you would see more, but you'd probably need an old Betacam suite to watch it.

No, the white dot was added as well. It is coming in directly from the east. You should see flight 175 on the right side of the screen diving right above the mechanical sky lobby floor of the north tower. 10 or 15 floors above that you can see the sky change color in blue rectangles. I hope the editor is a child in his early teens. If its an adult. there's no excuse. Failure to progress to adulthood.

 

[dudalb]

The thing is it is not even a halfway clever fake. If the truthers were halfway decent con men, I might have a little respect for them. But they are inept practioners of that art.

 

[MG1962]

No, the white dot was added as well. It is coming in directly from the east. You should see flight 175 on the right side of the screen diving right above the mechanical sky lobby floor of the north tower. 10 or 15 floors above that you can see the sky change color in blue rectangles. I hope the editor is a child in his early teens. If its an adult. there's no excuse. Failure to progress to adulthood.

Yeah the white dot does not even line up with the explosion....classy......real classy

 

[dropzone]

The thing is it is not even a halfway clever fake. If the truthers were halfway decent con men, I might have a little respect for them. But they are inept practioners of that art.

Ain't that a pisser? Back in my day grifters had some class and knew how to cover their tracks. Kids these days think they are the only people with a pirated copy of Photoshop.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Boy, truthers are getting more and more desperate.

Instead of accepting reality for what it is, they decide to alter reality to make it fit their claims.

Pathetic.

not the first time, they already have a history of overdubbing explosions into videos of the towers collapsing (and subsequently claiming the originals were faked by debunkers)

 

[Baylor]

No, the white dot was added as well. It is coming in directly from the east. You should see flight 175 on the right side of the screen diving right above the mechanical sky lobby floor of the north tower. 10 or 15 floors above that you can see the sky change color in blue rectangles. I hope the editor is a child in his early teens. If its an adult. there's no excuse. Failure to progress to adulthood.

Yeah that was pretty bad. Even my editing skills could do a better job.

 

[Profanz]

So who posted it on youtube?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

So who posted it on youtube?

http://www.youtube.com/user/911wtcplanes#p/u

He doesn't actually appear to be a truther if you check out his other videos, especially the one below, where his description of the video is...

By the way, conspiracy theory dont make sense.. now I believe my friends when they tell me american people are stupid.. cause SO many americans believes the conspiracy theory xD What the....

 

[fullflavormenthol]

Ain't that a pisser? Back in my day grifters had some class and knew how to cover their tracks. Kids these days think they are the only people with a pirated copy of Photoshop.

True. It also goes for paranormal videos. Back in the day there were people that could make a pretty good UFO fake with nothing more than some paint, a pack of disposable bowls and a Polaroid camera.

Now the new stuff is so easy to spot it is almost an insult. Kids these days don't know about double exposers and reflective glass. They look at you with a puzzled face when you try to explain it to them.

 

[leftysergeant]

There are other far more obviously faked tapes on that site. None of it can be considered source material. He made a hodge-podge video with a local news anchor, live coverage of 9/11 and the collapse of the Bouwkunde building and called it a story about a jet crash.

 

[Par]

So who posted it on youtube?

That was odd. I thought to myself, “Why are posts appearing under Profanz again? Has the Algebra34 account been banned?” So I had a little look and – by Jove! – it jolly well has!