Failure to reach an agreement on a protocol.

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We all saw the charade perpetrated by The Professor last year regarding his attempt to participate in the MDC. He was never able to submit even the barest hint of a workable protocol and resisted all attempts by others here to assist him.

But are there other instances where a protocol was being negotiated in good faith by both sides, but there was a sticking point that neither side would budge on, resulting in the end of the negotiations and the canceling of the application?
 
I think Prophet Yahweh is a good example. He wanted to bring along armed guards, and quite reasonably the JREF refused.
 
Yeah, Prophet Yahweh was a good one.

Any audio claim - most notably Michael Anda - would probably fall under that category as well.

In many cases, the problems seem to arise from the inability of the applicant to clearly phrase his claim. After it initially seems that there might be a claim forthcoming, when forced to make a clear statement to advance to the application process, many applicants shorten their sails.

Other cases:

Pavel "pavel_do" Ziborov
Carina Landin, although a test took place.
And of course Mike "edge" Guska. A test took place in 2002. He failed. But he kept trying to start anew. His "protocol" would change at the drop of a hat.
 
What about that guy who claimed that if he locked his dog in the bathroom it would magically make turds disappear from the toilet... That seemed to be dismissed right off the bat.
 
Thank you.
Quite funny, but I do not think he was serious.
Well, but then there was that "paranormal urination" claimant that obviously was serious.
Sometimes it´s really hard to grasp what´s going on in people´s heads.....
 
I can't believe he was serious either, but how would you even begin to negotiate something like that?
 
Georg said:
Thank you.
Quite funny, but I do not think he was serious.
Well, but then there was that "paranormal urination" claimant that obviously was serious.
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Yeah I saw that one. Jeff managed to hold it in for like 20 minutes. The laughs I mean. But she took it really well. Just walked off like she just finished manicure and going for groceries.
 
Pogo said:
We all saw the charade perpetrated by The Professor last year regarding his attempt to participate in the MDC. He was never able to submit even the barest hint of a workable protocol and resisted all attempts by others here to assist him.

But are there other instances where a protocol was being negotiated in good faith by both sides, but there was a sticking point that neither side would budge on, resulting in the end of the negotiations and the canceling of the application?
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Here's a list I did last year (so a little out of date now). But it's a list of those applicants listed on the Forum that had their applications accepted and Protocol negotiations started, and even had testers identified before dropping out for one reason or another.

Down the bottom you'll find the one's that actually got tested.

Thread | Protocol Negotiated | Protocol Agreed | Examiners Found | Rejection Reason | Tested | Passed
IAN D. LEAHY: Phone Home|Y|N||||
DR. SANJAY VASHI: Sub-Continent Homeopath|Y|N|Y|||
BICH BA DO: QiGong Master|Y|N|Y|||
I AM NOT HUMAN|Y|N||||
The PROPHET YAHWEH: Maker of UFO's|Y|N|Y||N|
MICHAEL ANDA: Audio Critic|Y|N||||
"JAK"" KEERAN: Astrologer|Y|N|Y|||
D. Khoury: Aura Manipulator & Astral Traveler|Y|N|N|||
OLIVER MILLS & The Dopamine Rush|Y|N|Y|||
THOMAN MANZ: Native American Photographer|Y|N||||
IGOR|Y|N|Y||N|
CATHERINE MONETTI: MA: RN: ""TT"""|Y|N||||
WARREN WARD: WEIRD|Y|N|Y|||
ANDREAS SALADIN: Swiss Dr. FeelGood|Y|N||||
NICK NELSON: Mysterious Growing Person|Y|N||||
ANDY ZWIERZYNA: Confused PSYCHIC|Y|N|Y|||
MARGARET WATERHOUSE: Painter of the DEAD|Y|N|Y|||
ANTHONY CHADWELL: seeing LIGHTS|Y|N|Y|||
BETH CLARKSON: Flame Thrower|Y|N||Withdrew||
GAIL HAGEN: Born-Again Psychic|Y|N|Y|||
ERIK BOSTROM: Canadian Malcontent|Y|N|Y|||
JEFF FATICA: TT Applicant|Y|N|Y|||
CARINA LANDIN: Swedish Friend of the DEAD|Y|Y|Y|||
IAN CONGER: Ouija Board Applicant|Y|Y|Y||N|
ACHAU NGUYEN: Hawaiian Psychic|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
Hans Peter Borer: Celfon + Pendulum = $1:000:000|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
DEJA GATEWARD & THE GSIC fiasco|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
ANGELA PATEL: UK Dowser of Lost Persons|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
CAMERON JOHNSON: Carolina Moonshot|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
PAUL CAREY: Irish Wit|Y|Y|Y||N|
YELLOW BAMBOO & ""A.G. Donovan"|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
JIM DUNN: Hospital Angel|Y|Y|Y||Y|N
RUSSELL SHIPP: Texas Telekinetic|Y|Y|Y|Previously Tested||
JAMES BLUNT: metal visionary (LRL|Y|Y|Y||Y|N

 
TheDoLittle said:
I noticed George and his corn dogs aren't on the list.
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Yeah, my list is out of date by 12 months.

I keep promising to revisit this and update the statistics, but I'm also collating a list (and web page) from another thread which has taken over my time. I'll see if I can raise some enthusiasm and get back on this.
 
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