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Everyone ready for Tuesday?

catsmate

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Windows 7 goes End of Life on Tuesday 14JAN2020. No more updates and patches unless you've paid for the corporate extension.

I take it everyone is prepared?
 
I'm using an old, slow Windows 7 PC right now and I have no idea if my company (they provided the computer) is up to date. One of the IT guys told me they would probably be sending out a new PC before the end of the year, but that's come and gone with nary another word about it. The two other PCs they sent more recently (yes, I have to use three PCs) are both Windows 10.

I imagine they've probably signed up for continued updates if for no other reason than we're subject to government inspection and could take a real beating if too many PCs are lagging behind in terms of security.
 
Babbylonian said:
I'm using an old, slow Windows 7 PC right now and I have no idea if my company (they provided the computer) is up to date. One of the IT guys told me they would probably be sending out a new PC before the end of the year, but that's come and gone with nary another word about it. The two other PCs they sent more recently (yes, I have to use three PCs) are both Windows 10.

I imagine they've probably signed up for continued updates if for no other reason than we're subject to government inspection and could take a real beating if too many PCs are lagging behind in terms of security.
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True, there would be significant liability issues wrt duty of care and data protection. Only Win7 Professional and Enterprise editions will be able to update after Tuesday and only if their VLK holders page paid.
 
There was a good post on the Vivaldi (bestest browser) Blog recently that makes the point of Why you should replace Windows 7 with Linux

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Team Vivaldi said:
Until recently, for the average Windows user, replacing Windows with Linux was a no-go. In fact, you might still be thinking of Linux as that OS that requires you to write a lot of command lines in Terminal and is not suitable for those with zero programming skills. But rest assured that things have moved on in the Linux world. It has become much more accessible to the average user. If like most average users, you use your computer to browse the internet, watch movies and work on some documents, then you will be just fine. Install and enjoy!
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With all my Linux shilling in recent years, there has always been the small club of like-minded Tuxedos and the horde of clerks who need Windows for their clerking, but I can't remember a single person who was brave enough to actually (at least try to) make the transition. It would be interesting to watch.
 
Childlike Empress said:
With all my Linux shilling in recent years, there has always been the small club of like-minded Tuxedos and the horde of clerks who need Windows for their clerking, but I can't remember a single person who was brave enough to actually (at least try to) make the transition. It would be interesting to watch.
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Been on Win 10 for a year now, largely glitch-free. Yeah, they are never going to fix that stupid bug that makes the task bar show up even when you are not near the bottom of the screen, but that's an easy fix.
 
catsmate said:
:rolleyes:
Could we stick to realities and avoid the Linux evangelism please.
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Why? I have PCs running both win10 and linux in the house. My kid is happy borrowing my linux Mint laptop when she can't find her Yoga. I think she was 8 when she first tried it and I just had to tell her Word was called Writer, otherwise no issues.
3 of our PCs though have had horrid issues with major windows updates making them useless for days on end.
 
People should use whatever they're comfortable with. I've used both OS's, and there are highs and lows of each. Windows 7 was a good OS, and I don't run into consistent issues with Windows 10. Perhaps if I had to pay to upgrade I might give Linux a shot, but as it was I had no need to pay anything to get to windows 10. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
We started a mass upgrade plan about 6 months back and finished up just before the beginning of the year. Now to spend the next month dealing with "OMG everything looks slightly different I can no longer function!" from most of my users.
 
We dealt with the same nonsense at my office. People having a nervous breakdown because the Start menu looks different. The really painful part is we support multiple domains and environments. Several groups need to access multiple domains and we had some Rube Goldberg type setups to access certain folders. Windows 10 fouled a bunch of those up and we only recently got that specific department fully migrated. Keep in mind, the company wide roll out started 3 years ago (at least).
 
Wednesday should be even more fun. That's when Microsoft rolls out the new version of Edge browser based on Chromium, replacing the old one based on their own rendering engine. Heise writes that while the old version won't be deleted immediately (that will happen later on), it needs some tricks to still access it after the update.

Good luck with "your" computer and internet, Windows 10 users.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Wednesday should be even more fun. That's when Microsoft rolls out the new version of Edge browser based on Chromium, replacing the old one based on their own rendering engine. Heise writes that while the old version won't be deleted immediately (that will happen later on), it needs some tricks to still access it after the update.

Good luck with "your" computer and internet, Windows 10 users.
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LoL who the **** uses Edge? Anyone with half a brain uses anything else. I don't even allow Edge to be used in our office.

I get the whole "linux is like...totes superior" but that is seriously debatable, not like that's some new information or anything. I think of all the migrations, upgrades and sunsets of software, this one was handled the best. They gave way more than ample time to upgrade, the process to upgrade was simplistic (at least for me, sounds like others had problems), and I didn't run into any real software issues. Compatibility was almost a non issue.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I use Edge all the time.... to download Chrome on new PC installs.
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That's about as far as I get with it for sure. I get to ninite and then delete the icon off of the desktop and remove it from the start menu.

My charges in the office don't have the computer knowledge to go through and find it again. For the most part as long as I can keep their bookmarks in place they don't really care all that much.

That being said, I think I have 2 windows 7 laptops left that I haven't bothered with because they're old and I'm waiting for my boss not to notice so I can throw them away.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Apparently slightly under 9% of desktops in the USA. Which to me is surprisingly low. I would have guessed much higher, maybe around 25%.
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I'd say that's just about where I'd put the number. Older people that aren't really familiar with how to get a new browser, or how to get their bookmarks setup. Too bad that site doesn't break it down by age to confirm my theory.

I don't personally know anyone that uses Edge on a regular basis. As in, for anything more than Joe and I have said.

ETA: I'm actually more shocked that Firefox has dropped so much. A decade ago and I'd guess they were in the 40-50% range.
 
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plague311 said:
I'd say that's just about where I'd put the number. Older people that aren't really familiar with how to get a new browser, or how to get their bookmarks setup. Too bad that site doesn't break it down by age to confirm my theory.

I don't personally know anyone that uses Edge on a regular basis. As in, for anything more than Joe and I have said.

ETA: I'm actually more shocked that Firefox has dropped so much. A decade ago and I'd guess they were in the 40-50% range.
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I think the thing that made me guess so wrong is that almost everybody uses google services these days, and if it's "only" gMail, so the folks who will enter the web with default Edge on Windows will get so aggressively nagged by google to switch to Chrome that they give in although they couldn't care less about what is under the hood of that "Internet" icon.

As to Firefox, it still has a 25% share of the desktop market - but only here in Germany.
 
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