'End Times' Religious Groups Want Apocalypse Soon

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-endtimes22jun22,0,7902314.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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For thousands of years, prophets have predicted the end of the world. Today, various religious groups, using the latest technology, are trying to hasten it.

Their endgame is to speed the promised arrival of a messiah.

In Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a far different vision. As mayor of Tehran in 2004, he spent millions on improvements to make the city more welcoming for the return of a Muslim messiah known as the Mahdi, according to a recent report by the American Foreign Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank.

To the majority of Shiites, the Mahdi was the last of the prophet Muhammad's true heirs, his 12 righteous descendants chosen by God to lead the faithful.

Ahmadinejad hopes to welcome the Mahdi to Tehran within two years.

Conversely, some Jewish groups in Jerusalem hope to clear the path for their own messiah by rebuilding a temple on a site now occupied by one of Islam's holiest shrines.

Artisans have re-created priestly robes of white linen, gem-studded breastplates, silver trumpets and solid-gold menorahs to be used in the Holy Temple — along with two 6½-ton marble cornerstones for the building's foundation.

Then there is Clyde Lott, a Mississippi revivalist preacher and cattle rancher. He is trying to raise a unique herd of red heifers to satisfy an obscure injunction in the Book of Numbers: the sacrifice of a blemish-free red heifer for purification rituals needed to pave the way for the messiah.

So far, only one of his cows has been verified by rabbis as worthy, meaning they failed to turn up even three white or black hairs on the animal's body.

Jews, Xians, and Muslims, all laying the groundwork for their messiah. Is it just me, or will at least two (probably all three, but who's counting) of these groups at some point be sorely dissapointed?
 
How sick. The thought of a global genocide gets these people excited. Their minds are diseased.
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-endtimes22jun22,0,7902314.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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Jews, Xians, and Muslims, all laying the groundwork for their messiah. Is it just me, or will at least two (probably all three, but who's counting) of these groups at some point be sorely dissapointed?


To paraphrase Bertrand Russell: 'In any case of logically exclusive statements, only one of them can be right, but all of them may be wrong'. To extend this to conflicting apocalypitc religious predictions, and from thence to all of the conflicting properties that have been claimed by all of our clans and tribes and city-states and nations, for all of their gods and God(s), over our entire planet, and during the past several thousand years, is to understand clearly that the whole business has never been anything but a crock of ..... .

We have, as a species, asked the same question in the same way at least 10,000,000 times, and (in regard to any one of our present Gods) we have observably obtained 9,999,999 wrong answers. Yet there are more people in our world now then there have ever been who are prepared to bet their lives (and all of the rest of our lives) on their particular version of 'Answer # 10,000,000'. If this seems as weird and unsatisfactory to you as it does to me then please visit my blog, at http://poppersinversion.blogspot.com . You won't find an easy read, but you will find an actionable proposal for stopping this nonsense.
 
I have met Christians who I otherwise considered to be quite rational and tolerant who have said that they cannot wait for the end times....

I have never gotten a satisfactory reason as to why. Why would anyone want to hurry up to a time of such depravity and misery? Why would anyone want to cause the eternal torment of their well meaning neighbors? Why is this wanted by anyone? I can only speculate that it is to firmly resolve any doubts that they have and get their rewards in heaven all the sooner, but that sounds just a bit selfish to me.
 
"...two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong!" - Dire Straits

As long as these nutters are tying up their own millions and effort and concentration on this basically harmless lunacy, and not on mindless hurt and destruction to others, let them do it! It keeps them occupied and off the streets and out of way.

If whole countries (i.e. Iran) are prepared to follow them down that path, ignore them, or offer no objections. So when the "blessed day" dawns and nothing happens, guess who the totally disappointed populace will have little choice to blame...

(NOT Lisa ;))
 
I don't know very much about the Christian groups, and nothing at all about the Moslem ones, but regarding the Jewish ones, I've always wondered what they think about the statement of one of the major Talmudic authorities that he would rather live in any other time but the End Times.
 
Bah, Ragnarok is what we're -really- waiting for!


Indeed. The end of The Ring Cycle, at high volume, used to be my standard response to a set of neighbors who tended to play their Christian music too loudly. I don't think that they ever got the message, even when I threw in Carmina Burana as well. But it was OK, as they're both fabulous pieces of music.
 
Or hit 'em with Christopher Tin's Baba Yetu, then when they complain about that outlandish foreign babble, tell them it's the Lord's Prayer in Swahili.

[edit] Good listening, even for non-Christians.
 
Indeed. The end of The Ring Cycle, at high volume, used to be my standard response to a set of neighbors who tended to play their Christian music too loudly. I don't think that they ever got the message, even when I threw in Carmina Burana as well. But it was OK, as they're both fabulous pieces of music.
Mmmm, Carmina Burana... I really love that one. It is the epitome of epic scores.
 
[swiki]Eschatology[/swiki] ... it's been popular for over two millennia, so how can it be wrong?

I hope President A-mad-jihaadi really commits himself to this notion of the Mahdi turning up in a couple of years. The Shi'ites could really do with a Great Disappointment a la the Seventh Day Adventists.
 
They are going to have serious engineering problems if they try to build that oversized wine press in Revelations.
 
Can I help?


Definitely. But it will cost you about half an hour of valuable reading time.

Go up to message #3 of this thread, click on the URL, and read what you find there. If you've visited within the past few days, and it still didn't make any sense, then you're officially excused. Otherwise, even if you have tried previously, please try again. I've been doing a lot of work on it, and think that it may now be more understandable. Basically, I think that I'm saying something that has the potential to take down all forms of theism as efficiently and irreparably as potassium cyanide taking down the Krebs Cycle; but I seem to be having an inordinately hard time in getting anyone else to understand it. I need, as a minimum, for my own people to understand it in order to get the ball rolling. Or maybe, in a better analogy, to help me push off a little snowball at the top of a huge unstable slope of snow. If you visit then please let me know what you think.

BR,

Keith
 

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