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Eat This One Apologists

Johnny Pneumatic

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This Bible flaw was discovered by me. Not even the Skeptic's Annotated Bible has an entry on it, top that!

Here it is:

Rev. 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

There aren't slaves anymore, at least not legal slaves(sure there's illegal sex-slaves in Thailand). Chariots are hardly common-place transportation any longer either.
 
Those links you gave are about slavery that's illegal. Murder and rape are illegal, they happen though. You want to give some proof about official legal slavery(not hidden because it's criminal in said country) in a UN nation?
 
SkepticJ said:
There aren't slaves anymore, at least not legal slaves(sure there's illegal sex-slaves in Thailand). Chariots are hardly common-place transportation any longer either.

Simple answer: when the end times come, slavery and chariots are again in vogue.
 
SkepticJ said:
Those links you gave are about slavery that's illegal. Murder and rape are illegal, they happen though. You want to give some proof about official legal slavery(not hidden because it's criminal in said country) in a UN nation?

More research might lead to a different conclusion.

When a government condones slavery, that effectively makes it legal, no matter what may be written on an unused statute. Legal, as in, the systems acts to make sure that victims have no legal recourse.

"Slavery has been a way of life in Mauritanian for many centuries "There are tens of thousands of Black slaves who remain the property of their master, subject entirely to his will, working long hours for no remuneration, with no access to education and no freedom to marry or to associate freely with other blacks." says Africa Watch. "They escape servitude not by exercising their "legal" rights, but mainly through escape."

For those who are skeptical and find this hard to believe, it is important to do the math. This slave trade predates the 1400's and continued until ". . .July 5, 1980, [when] the government of President Mohamed Khouna Ould Haidallah passed a decree abolishing slavery for the third time in Mauritania's history" states Africa Watch. "The abolition was essentially a public-relations exercise prompted by external considerations. It was never intended as a well thought out policy aimed at eradicating the age-old practice of slavery."...."
http://members.aol.com/casmasalc/demographics.html

"..."Even in cold weather I had to wear thin dresses ... I was forced by the boss to serve international soldiers and police officers ... I have never had a chance of running away and leaving that miserable life, because I was observed every moment by a woman."
UNMIK's initial response in the period from 1999 to 2000 appears to have been to try to control prostitution - which is illegal in Kosovo - rather than addressing the issue of trafficking. This was done predominantly through raids by UNMIK Police and KFOR on premises where trafficked women were believed to work. UNMIK police also arrested women for immigration or documentation offences at borders and within Kosovo. However, the traffickers themselves were rarely targeted.
...Very few trafficked women in Kosovo are able to gain access to justice, including the right to seek redress through the criminal justice system. To date, no trafficked woman has been able to obtain reparations for the damage she has suffered as a result of abuses of their human rights."
http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document.do?id=1391B6E5EE9C8A9780256E7E0041EE72

"The bigger problem, as Rockwell acknowledged, is that the country has developed a reputation as the brothel of Europe, with cheap flights fueling sex tourism. Traffickers see a great business opportunity in the Czech Republic. And if prosecutors and judges do not start to take the issue seriously, the Czech Republic could become even more of a trafficker's heaven, Tier 1 rating or not."
http://www.praguepost.com/P03/2004/Art/0624/opinpv.php

But enough derailing with unpleasant toopics...back to Jebus, by all means.
 
SkepticJ said:
Those links you gave are about slavery that's illegal. Murder and rape are illegal, they happen though. You want to give some proof about official legal slavery(not hidden because it's criminal in said country) in a UN nation?

Would you say that the maltreatment and severe restrictions on women in some Middle Eastern countries qualifies as slavery? I don't see much difference and wonder why the women of the world aren't rising up against this abomination.

Ernon
 
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LW said:
Simple answer: when the end times come, slavery and chariots are again in vogue.

I'm going to have my slave drive my chariot.

(sigh) Good times.
 
SkepticJ said:
Those links you gave are about slavery that's illegal. Murder and rape are illegal, they happen though. You want to give some proof about official legal slavery(not hidden because it's criminal in said country) in a UN nation?
Um... Wal Mart?
 
You see, "chariot" is a metaphor for "cars," and "slave" is a metaphor for personal computers. Anything to make it appear up to date.
 
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triadboy said:
I'm going to have my slave drive my chariot.

(sigh) Good times.
I'm going to have my slaves CARRY my chariot! And the horses.

Anything less would be un-something or other.
 
But aren't we forgetting the spiritual message of Revelations?

Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength! Yay!




Oh wait, that was 1984. Well, certain fundies can't tell the difference anyway.
 
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Zep said:
I'm going to have my slaves CARRY my chariot! And the horses.

Anything less would be un-something or other.

Ha! I'm much more civilized than you, for my chariot is carried by slaves mounted on horses which are in turn standing on horses carried by more slaves, in a giant acrobatic arrangement. The benefit of this method of transport is that not only is it tres elegant, but also I can charge people money to see me travel around as a circus parade. I spend the money to bleach the horses, then dye them back to their original colors. That's called "style".
 
Chariot of fire

triadboy said:
I'm going to have my slave drive my chariot.

(sigh) Good times.

I will settle for nothing less than a FLAMING chariot like the one God drove across the sky in the Old Testament.

Maybe I can have my slaves paint flames on the sides of the chariot at least.

I wonder why God didn't pick a Hummer to drive across the sky?
 
SkepticJ said:
Chariots are hardly common-place transportation any longer either.

They will be when the oil runs out. The Amish know this, and have kept a repository of horsey knowledge with which they will rise up and take over the world.

Those buggies won't look so olde-time and cute when they've got rotating knives attached to the hubs.
 
c4ts said:
But aren't we forgetting the spiritual message of Revelations?

Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength! Yay!

Oh wait, that was 1984. Well, certain fundies can't tell the difference anyway.

True
 
SkepticJ said:
This Bible flaw was discovered by me. Not even the Skeptic's Annotated Bible has an entry on it, top that!

Here it is:

Rev. 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

There aren't slaves anymore, at least not legal slaves(sure there's illegal sex-slaves in Thailand). Chariots are hardly common-place transportation any longer either.
It's of my understanding that this verse is in reference to the decline of the Roman Catholic Church, which began several hundred years ago. And yes, at that time, slavery was still wide spread.
 
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richardm said:
They will be when the oil runs out. The Amish know this, and have kept a repository of horsey knowledge with which they will rise up and take over the world.

Those buggies won't look so olde-time and cute when they've got rotating knives attached to the hubs.
Do the knives rotate when the hubs don't? Or are they really stationary knives that rotate with the hubs, when the hubs are rotating?
 

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