Dylan Avery doubles down on the woo... Crop Circle crap!

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Oh dear, Dylan... and we had such optimism you were beginning to understand where you went wrong...

His latest effort in film-making is a glorification of Crop Circle nutters.

http://iamdylanavery.com/the-secret/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ILFCUnR0I

(Still no sign of his road trip movie interviewing current/ex(?) truthers.)

Mind you, there IS a bit of money to be made on idiocy.

Pity money can't buy credibility.
 
Well you never really know. In fact, these could be aliens from multiple galaxies dropping by to mark their territory! :eek:
 
Gawdzilla said:
"We are thousands of years ahead of you in science. We cross interstellar space in vehicles beyond your comprehension. We leave messages for you by stomping plants."
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michael44 said:
Well you never really know. In fact, these could be aliens from multiple galaxies dropping by to mark their territory! :eek:
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Like writing your name in the snow!
 
Dylan apparently just did some editing on the film. Check out the bio of the director:

Charles Maxwell was born in London. He attended Millfield and has been overheard telling people – quite proudly – that Jeremy Clarkson of “Top Gear” did also (he didn’t). Maxwell attended Southern Methodist University in Texas for seven years and graduated with a degree in English. He attended graduate school somewhere in Colorado, but dropped out of the program because his professors were “Neanderthals.” Maxwell lives in Malibu and supports Greenpeace and Rick, the local pet acupuncturist. He spends his considerable downtime lying in bed, watching homemade conspiracy videos on Youtube, and spontaneously delivering guest lectures to anyone who comes to the door. “A Field Full of Secrets” is his first film.
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The video says that the crop circles "have become more complex over the years." This is probably because the builders (humans) have become more experienced at doing what they do. Aliens would keep on doing the same designs all the time.
 
rjh01 said:
The video says that the crop circles "have become more complex over the years." This is probably because the builders (humans) have become more experienced at doing what they do. Aliens would keep on doing the same designs all the time.
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Since everyone knows crop circles can be made by ordinary people, there has to be a difference between those legitimately created by space aliens and those created by drunken art students. Hence the "simple" ones must be those made by people, and the very complex ones "must" be made by aliens.
 
JayUtah said:
Since everyone knows crop circles can be made by ordinary people, there has to be a difference between those legitimately created by space aliens and those created by drunken art students. Hence the "simple" ones must be those made by people, and the very complex ones "must" be made by aliens.
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Therefore the aliens didn't get here until that time when crop circles were deemed sufficiently complex.

Similar to the Egyptian pyramids then. All those failed mounds of stones were made by humans, then aliens arrived and demonstrated their intellectual superiority and technology in building the Great Pyramids.
 
BTW a friend of mine has an incredible coffee-table book with something like 200 photos of crop circles. They are amazingly beautiful! I had no idea there were so many of them, and so esthetically designed.
 
JayUtah said:
Since everyone knows crop circles can be made by ordinary people, there has to be a difference between those legitimately created by space aliens and those created by drunken art students. Hence the "simple" ones must be those made by people, and the very complex ones "must" be made by aliens.
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It sounds like they're going in (ahem) circles here; how do they differentiate between "too simple for aliens" and "too complex for humans" without begging the question, without simply inferring the "complexity" from the ability of either, and the ability of either from the "complexity"? It seems like the same circle drawn by believers in Intelligent Design, when they reason from what they see as the necessarily-designed "complexity" of the Universe. "Complex" isn't, after all, an objective thing, it's a moving point on a continuum of definition, depending on who's defining it. Without evidence of the Designer (or crop circle-creating aliens) independent of the mere inference from perception, it's circular reasoning.

WRT the crop circles, it's admitted that the result (a crop circle) can be achieved by humans; that's the null hypothesis, which needs to be overcome by a little more than just handwaving with "complex!" Same thing with "fine-tuning resulted in life, therefore design!"- a result can be an intended (designed) goal, but it takes more than a perception to make more of an outcome than the null of "outcome"; you need evidence independent of the outcome itself to make it "design."
 
Sherman Bay said:
Once you buy heavily into one kind of woo, believing the rest follows naturally.
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For some woosters, "naturally" is right- here, there's a mere vague "more things in heaven and earth"-type philosophy that lets them shrug and say, "well, science can't explain everything, so, sure, ghosts and aliens. Why not?" This is natural gullibility, and can be overcome with reason (usually).

With others, though, the more proper word might be "necessarily"- there's an inertia of woo that demands that belief in one specific woo lead to belief in another. It's most marked, I think, in the really hard core CTists who see their particularized CTs (JFK, 9/11, chemtrails, etc.) as only parts of one Great Big World-Wide Conspiracy To Rule Them All (I'm thinking "papamundi" here). These folks are riding a Woo train with their engine of belief running wide open and their brake of critical thinking entirely disengaged. This goes beyond mere gullibility; there's nothing natural about this total abrogation of reason; they double down because they need to.
 
turingtest said:
For some woosters, "naturally" is right- here, there's a mere vague "more things in heaven and earth"-type philosophy that lets them shrug and say, "well, science can't explain everything, so, sure, ghosts and aliens. Why not?" This is natural gullibility, and can be overcome with reason (usually).
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I sometimes hear this from one or two friends who have actual science educations but have succumbed to occult-related woo.
"Not too long ago, nobody had ever heard of dark matter or dark energy. Now, they think it makes up most of the universe. There's obviously a lot we don't know about how the universe works, so how can we be sure magic doesn't exist?"

Dark matter implies unicorns... :jaw-dropp
 
Armitage72 said:
I sometimes hear this from one or two friends who have actual science educations but have succumbed to occult-related woo.
"Not too long ago, nobody had ever heard of dark matter or dark energy. Now, they think it makes up most of the universe. There's obviously a lot we don't know about how the universe works, so how can we be sure magic doesn't exist?"

Dark matter implies unicorns... :jaw-dropp
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Dragons perhaps too? Game of Thrones is a documentary!
 
Armitage72 said:
"Not too long ago, nobody had ever heard of dark matter or dark energy. Now, they think it makes up most of the universe. There's obviously a lot we don't know about how the universe works, so how can we be sure magic doesn't exist?"
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Replace 'dark matter' with Kardashians and 'dark energy' with Beyonce.
 
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