Drugs & Nuke-u-lar weapons don't mix

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Nevermind North Korea and Iran; what if this information makes it into the hands illegal immigrants, Nazi skinheads or the Religious Right? ;)

Los Alamos nuke documents thought found in drug raid

POSTED: 9:01 p.m. EDT, October 24, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A drug raid on a Los Alamos scientist's home in New Mexico turned up what appeared to be classified documents taken from the nuclear weapons lab, the FBI said Tuesday.

Police discovered the documents at the scientist's home while making an arrest in a methamphetamine investigation, according to an FBI official in Washington who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case.

The police alerted the FBI to the documents, prompting a federal search of the unidentified female scientist's home. The official would not describe the documents except to say that they appeared to contain classified material.

Asked about the raid, FBI special agent Bill Elwell in Albuquerque, New Mexico, confirmed that a search warrant was executed on Friday night, but he refused to discuss details.

"We do have an investigation with regard to the matter, but our standard is we do not discuss pending investigations," Elwell said.

A spokesman for the Los Alamos National Laboratory, in Los Alamos, New Mexico, declined to comment.

Past problems at Los Alamos

Los Alamos has a history of high-profile security problems in the past decade, with the most notable the case of nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee. After years of accusations, Lee pleaded guilty in a plea bargain to one count of mishandling nuclear secrets at the lab.

In 2004, the lab was essentially shut down after an inventory showed that two computer disks containing nuclear secrets were missing. A year later the lab concluded that it was just a mistake and the disks never existed.

But the incident highlighted sloppy inventory control and security failures at the nuclear weapons lab. And the Energy Department began moving toward a five-year program to create a so-called diskless environment at Los Alamos to prevent any classified material being carried outside the lab.

Even though Los Alamos is now under new management, Danielle Brian, executive director of the watchdog group Project on Government Oversight, said the lab has not done much to clean up its act.

"Los Alamos has always seemed to be rewarded for its screw-ups," Brian said. "We're waiting with bated breath to see if anything has changed."

The idea that police found classified documents in a drug lab is disturbing, she said.

"The problem is when you actually have those materials that are supposed to be protected inside the lab and you find them outside the lab in the hands of criminals that should worry everybody," Brian said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/24/los.alamos.documents.ap/index.html

(edited to add) Isn't it interesting that we're worried about the "Axis of Evil" releasing this type of information to terrorists when we can't even safeguard the same information in a U.S. lab?
 
I heard about this on NPR this morning. I think it is an assumption that the documents are nuclear related. Los Alamos does more than nuke weapons research.

And the woman was not a nuclear scientist.

But it is unbelievable that after all their troubles in the past, and with a change in managment, they still have leaks of classified documents.

Some heads need to be cracked.
 
(edited to add) Isn't it interesting that we're worried about the "Axis of Evil" releasing this type of information to terrorists when we can't even safeguard the same information in a U.S. lab?
The safeguarding of classified information is and has been an ongoing concern. So too is the spread of certain info regarding nuclear weapons engineering. Being concerned with one does not preclude the other, and both concerns being significant does not guarantee a zero defects counterespionage, nor information security, program implementation.

Your assessment is based on a false logic. Both matters are related and of serious concern. So too was the crypto security that Warrant Officer Walker leaked back in the 1980's.

DR
 
I heard about this on NPR this morning.
Yeah, I heard about this on NPR this morning as well, while I was on my way up to the lab. I'm waiting for the inevitable mass email from the director. Whenever there is some kind of PR and/or public security f up, they send one out.
I think it is an assumption that the documents are nuclear related. Los Alamos does more than nuke weapons research.
True. A greater and greater fraction of the lab's budget is going into unclassified basic research (i.e. me). I consider that a good thing.
And the woman was not a nuclear scientist.
You don't have to be.
 
Yeah, I heard about this on NPR this morning as well, while I was on my way up to the lab. I'm waiting for the inevitable mass email from the director. Whenever there is some kind of PR and/or public security f up, they send one out.

I realize you can't tell us about the security measures in place to prevent people from removing classified material from the premises. But does this event surprise you?
 
I never get one! :(

:) Count yourself lucky. It's my experience that multiple memos are meant more to hold you accountable than to inform you.

We should be glad that the information went to a meth lab instead of China. ;) And speaking of meth labs; has it been proven that the security violator/meth cooker KNEW what the information was? They would be just as guilty if the information was on a CD they were using as a coaster, or a hardcopy lining their birdcage, but they would be far less ominous.
 
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I realize you can't tell us about the security measures in place to prevent people from removing classified material from the premises. But does this event surprise you?
No.

With so many classified documents, disks, etc. necessarily around, it's inevitable that someone will accidental slip the wrong one into their bag before heading out through the fence to go home. With over 12,000 lab employees, a large fraction of which are badged for behind-the-fence work, I'm just surprised it doesn't happen more often.

Keep in mind, by the way, that while each such incident is serious, a certain level is inevitable, and it has been suggested that much of the criticism of the federal labs (Los Alamos in particular) is politically motivated, especially before LANS* took over Los Alamos from the University of California.

See, for example, this 2004 article from Physics Today:
http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-57/iss-12/p60.html

(It's supposed to be free access to that article.)

* = "Los Alamos National Security", a conglomerate of U.C., Bechdel, and some other companies.
 
We should be glad that the information went to a meth lab instead of China. ;) And speaking of meth labs; has it been proven that the security violator/meth cooker KNEW what the information was? They would be just as guilty if the information was on a CD they were using as a coaster, or a hardcopy lining their birdcage, but they would be far less ominous.
It's my understanding that the busted meth guy was the boyfriend of the Los Alamos scientist. At least that's what some other news outlets were reporting. So he didn't necessarily "have" the documents at all.

But I mean, really, bringing classfified s*** home to your boyfriend's meth lab? How stupid can you get? She was just asking to get busted.
 
I heard about this on NPR this morning. I think it is an assumption that the documents are nuclear related. Los Alamos does more than nuke weapons research.

And the woman was not a nuclear scientist.
Didn't Tom Lehrer say that when he was there after the war everybody there was actually a spy, for one side or another? :D
 
We should be glad that the information went to a meth lab instead of China. ;)

Not really. the only information that the US has that china may not is how to make non spherical devices (china may that but I'm not aware of any mentions in the public domain), how to make really mini nukes and some stuff on ageing of weapons.

There are groups I would be far more worried about than the chinese goverment.
 
Didn't Tom Lehrer say that when he was there after the war everybody there was actually a spy, for one side or another? :D
:D
"I'll put on my sombrero
And of course I'll wear a pair 'o
Levis, over my lead BVD's!"

-- Tom Lehrer; The Wild West is Where I Want to Be"

DR
 

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