Ok I am not getting answers in the MDC + my new thread was merged with the old thread that was moderated.
It is taking to long to actually talk in there and there are no new responses to my queries.
So I’ll put it in here since they think it is a phenomenon.
In My opinion I believe it’s not, I also believe it’s not an Ideomotor effect, at least not the way I dowse.
I believe it can be described in a scientific manner, “my theory on how it works”, which means all the negativity, or interferences needed to be eliminated in order to do as honest a double blind test that can be accomplished, so there are no excuses.
Then we will know for sure if it is something that warrants more study or left to the typical explanations.
Knowing all that I have learned over the years I have developed a protocol that in my mind does that and I would like your opinion on the fact that I have covered all or most of the aspects before I turn it in.
This is the cleanest test I have found which took several experiments and many similar tests.
I can answer any questions as to why I think this is explainable in respect to my theory.
The basis to my theory is this, since it is not magnetic in nature, “dowsing for gold using gold and silver in the end of a dowsing stick, “Y shaped willow stick”, then the explanation since it is attracted to all metals is, That we are feeling the dent in the magnetic field where metals are sitting, the smallest of singularities. An Interaction of all that is involved, through dowsing and the gravitational field, the person in the field the stick, the gold in the stick… and the energy from the person that powers the reaction which I believe is the electrical field we all have around us, call it what you like, I prefer the aura.
The one reason I am still pursuing this is I have been told over and over in here that, Physicists said, “they couldn’t measure the force”, I thought about that and if I couldn’t I would have to agree.
To be able to measure the reaction of the target and non target for the base lines would be great, the reason being if there is a sliver of iron in the ground or a nail or any metal on the smallest scale it will give a reading and it is difficult to tell a small hit from a large hit. However when searching in the field it is much easier to tell although mistakes are made there too.
I can, if you want, post a direct link to a previous experiment where I admit that, however my scores are to the positive side of the scale, that is really within the parameters of passing in the field test.
Here is the protocol:
Open and closed test consists of 10, 11.5 once coffee cans made of plastic.
Each can is to have approximately 10 ounces of filler or ballast.
That ballast can be corn, rice.
I will choose a spot in a park or at a house where I will set up a tri pod app. 5 feet tall somewhere in Ft-Lauderdale.
From there I will hang a scale on a short piece of twine and from it’s clip I will hang another short piece of twine to which my dowsing stick will be tied as in the SezMe test.link for visual: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2722435#post2722435
For the open test I will check the readings of the containers with all the ballast in place then once with the target assuring all the readings are the same empty or with target.
Targeted and empty containers in full view. Lids off.
Once I am satisfied we can proceed to the closed test.
1: All targets will pass across one spot, one at a time.
2: There will be 100 passes with the target showing up 10 time in all the passes, once every ten sets of passes.
4: Let me put it another way each set of ten will have the target show up once there will be ten sets of ten containers.
5: As before you will want me to get at least 8 of ten correct, picking out the target each time they are present, this will mean also that I have to get 90 correct hits on the empty
containers with out the target present, that in it's self is an extraordinary accomplishment.
EHocking says, above in number 5 all I need is 7 out of 10 to match the odds. Number 6 he says:
6: You could reduce both setup and trial time as well as material needed by testing for 1 sample in 5 containers.
Admittedly, you'd have to get 10 from 10 for a 10 pass trial to beat 1:1Million odds, but has JREF determined that these MUST be the odds you need to beat for the preliminary?
This means the target will be changed every tenth time or every fifth time in ten total sets for each.
7: One of your people hangs with me one of mine hangs with you.
8: Anything else you want to do to insure I don’t see or hear is up to you.
9: You can also cover the containers with a box also made of cardboard or plastic on the X spot.
10: The target can be any kind of metal, gold, iron, nickel, silver, as long as it is metal.
I might even use mercury if you aren’t scared since mercury covered gold is mined where I was dredging.
Target will be in it’s own container placed in the can with the ballast and when on the X spot it all can be covered with a small cardboard box, triple wrapped so to say.
11: I might use silver or a regular dime or gold in the end of the dowsing stick.
12: You can use cards or dice to get the number 1 through10 for placement of targets in which container that coincides with that number or 1 through 5.
13: You can send the cans through in any order of each set, either 1through 5 or 1 through 10 set.
14: the JREF team with one of my members will pick a card or roll a dice to get the number of the can that will hold the target then they will place the cans on the spot one at a time and
each time I will come out to the x spot and say yes or no.
15: to win the million I must repeat the closed test one more time if I understand this correctly.
Did I leave any thing out is it understandable.
It is taking to long to actually talk in there and there are no new responses to my queries.
So I’ll put it in here since they think it is a phenomenon.
In My opinion I believe it’s not, I also believe it’s not an Ideomotor effect, at least not the way I dowse.
I believe it can be described in a scientific manner, “my theory on how it works”, which means all the negativity, or interferences needed to be eliminated in order to do as honest a double blind test that can be accomplished, so there are no excuses.
Then we will know for sure if it is something that warrants more study or left to the typical explanations.
Knowing all that I have learned over the years I have developed a protocol that in my mind does that and I would like your opinion on the fact that I have covered all or most of the aspects before I turn it in.
This is the cleanest test I have found which took several experiments and many similar tests.
I can answer any questions as to why I think this is explainable in respect to my theory.
The basis to my theory is this, since it is not magnetic in nature, “dowsing for gold using gold and silver in the end of a dowsing stick, “Y shaped willow stick”, then the explanation since it is attracted to all metals is, That we are feeling the dent in the magnetic field where metals are sitting, the smallest of singularities. An Interaction of all that is involved, through dowsing and the gravitational field, the person in the field the stick, the gold in the stick… and the energy from the person that powers the reaction which I believe is the electrical field we all have around us, call it what you like, I prefer the aura.
The one reason I am still pursuing this is I have been told over and over in here that, Physicists said, “they couldn’t measure the force”, I thought about that and if I couldn’t I would have to agree.
To be able to measure the reaction of the target and non target for the base lines would be great, the reason being if there is a sliver of iron in the ground or a nail or any metal on the smallest scale it will give a reading and it is difficult to tell a small hit from a large hit. However when searching in the field it is much easier to tell although mistakes are made there too.
I can, if you want, post a direct link to a previous experiment where I admit that, however my scores are to the positive side of the scale, that is really within the parameters of passing in the field test.
Here is the protocol:
Open and closed test consists of 10, 11.5 once coffee cans made of plastic.
Each can is to have approximately 10 ounces of filler or ballast.
That ballast can be corn, rice.
I will choose a spot in a park or at a house where I will set up a tri pod app. 5 feet tall somewhere in Ft-Lauderdale.
From there I will hang a scale on a short piece of twine and from it’s clip I will hang another short piece of twine to which my dowsing stick will be tied as in the SezMe test.link for visual: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2722435#post2722435
For the open test I will check the readings of the containers with all the ballast in place then once with the target assuring all the readings are the same empty or with target.
Targeted and empty containers in full view. Lids off.
Once I am satisfied we can proceed to the closed test.
1: All targets will pass across one spot, one at a time.
2: There will be 100 passes with the target showing up 10 time in all the passes, once every ten sets of passes.
4: Let me put it another way each set of ten will have the target show up once there will be ten sets of ten containers.
5: As before you will want me to get at least 8 of ten correct, picking out the target each time they are present, this will mean also that I have to get 90 correct hits on the empty
containers with out the target present, that in it's self is an extraordinary accomplishment.
EHocking says, above in number 5 all I need is 7 out of 10 to match the odds. Number 6 he says:
6: You could reduce both setup and trial time as well as material needed by testing for 1 sample in 5 containers.
Admittedly, you'd have to get 10 from 10 for a 10 pass trial to beat 1:1Million odds, but has JREF determined that these MUST be the odds you need to beat for the preliminary?
This means the target will be changed every tenth time or every fifth time in ten total sets for each.
7: One of your people hangs with me one of mine hangs with you.
8: Anything else you want to do to insure I don’t see or hear is up to you.
9: You can also cover the containers with a box also made of cardboard or plastic on the X spot.
10: The target can be any kind of metal, gold, iron, nickel, silver, as long as it is metal.
I might even use mercury if you aren’t scared since mercury covered gold is mined where I was dredging.
Target will be in it’s own container placed in the can with the ballast and when on the X spot it all can be covered with a small cardboard box, triple wrapped so to say.
11: I might use silver or a regular dime or gold in the end of the dowsing stick.
12: You can use cards or dice to get the number 1 through10 for placement of targets in which container that coincides with that number or 1 through 5.
13: You can send the cans through in any order of each set, either 1through 5 or 1 through 10 set.
14: the JREF team with one of my members will pick a card or roll a dice to get the number of the can that will hold the target then they will place the cans on the spot one at a time and
each time I will come out to the x spot and say yes or no.
15: to win the million I must repeat the closed test one more time if I understand this correctly.
Did I leave any thing out is it understandable.
