Dover School Board members may be prosecuted for perjery

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WILLIAMSPORT - A federal prosecutor said testimony in the Dover Area School District's intelligent design case is under review to determine if perjury charges should be pursued.
U.S. Middle District Attorney Thomas A. Marino said yesterday that decision will take time because there is "a lot of reading to do" to determine if the statements rise to the level of a crime.
"I want to question a couple of people who were present," he said. They will not include Judge John E. Jones III, who presided over the case, he said.
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Oops.
 
Is it perjury if someone said they knew there was no god and then, ooops, turns out there is one and he's made of spaghetti?

--- G.
 
I wouldn't bother with perjury charges. Instead, I'd erect a large billboard in the center of town with pictures of the liars. There would also be a picture of Darwin pointing at them and laughing uproariously. In the corner, possibly, a picture of God rolling his eyes.



:big: :woowoo:woowoo:woowoo:woowoo :santa4::rolleyes:

~~ Paul
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
I wouldn't bother with perjury charges. Instead, I'd erect a large billboard in the center of town with pictures of the liars. There would also be a picture of Darwin pointing at them and laughing uproariously. In the corner, possibly, a picture of God rolling his eyes.



:big: :woowoo:woowoo:woowoo:woowoo :santa4::rolleyes:

~~ Paul
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Good point. Nice animation.
 
Why do get the feeling that any charges brought against these rule8-wits will just be used to show how the us government is persecuting christians for professing their beliefs, and is censoring "scientific" research?

The facts wont matter to these people, mind you, when do facts ever matter to fundies? :(
 
I think that rather than perjury, the Dover school board ex-members should be barred from holding public office.
 
Oh, well. More grist for the talk show circuit. I'll wait for the TV movie/book tie-in.

As it relates to evolution and ID...there's no sense in making martyrs of people by prosecuting them or by holding them up for public ridicule. That will only sidetrack the main issue, which was the egregious use of power to force a religious agenda into a public school curriculum. ID in this case was a tool, not a cause. The court's decision would--and should--apply to any atheists who tried to use evolution as a tool to force an atheist agenda into a public school curriculum.
 
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Pyrrho said:
The court's decision would--and should--apply to any atheists who tried to use evolution as a tool to force an atheist agenda into a public school curriculum.
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Fortunately, we don't need to force it - the Constitution already mandates that public schools be atheistic.
 
Pyrrho said:
The court's decision would--and should--apply to any atheists who tried to use evolution as a tool to force an atheist agenda into a public school curriculum.
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Is there something in the law about separation of lack of church and state? :D

Indeed, if someone started lecturing students to drop their belief in god, I'd expect people to complain. How such complaint would be upheld by law I'm not sure.

~~ Paul
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
I wouldn't bother with perjury charges. Instead, I'd erect a large billboard in the center of town with pictures of the liars. There would also be a picture of Darwin pointing at them and laughing uproariously. In the corner, possibly, a picture of God rolling his eyes.
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I think that billboard sends entirely the wrong message to the children, and is antitheitcal to a proper education. The sign should be corrected to read:




:big: :woowoo:woowoo:woowoo:woowoo :santa4::rolleyes:


Now I'm fine with it. :D
 
brodski said:
Why do get the feeling that any charges brought against these rule8-wits will just be used to show how the us government is persecuting christians for professing their beliefs, and is censoring "scientific" research?

The facts wont matter to these people, mind you, when do facts ever matter to fundies? :(
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Whereas I suspect you're correct, and that those involved have no guilt about lying (it was for the purpose of getting evolution out of the schools, after all) it bothers me that they wouldn't be prosecuted. Regardless of who they are or why they did it, I think that they should be tried. If ID have prevailed in this trial, I don't think the opinion would be that they should be given a pass.

No matter what happens, unless a ruling is in favor of these twits, there will always be cries of "religious persecution". That can't be allowed to force one's decision process in how to deal with them. They lied, they should be tried.
 
patchbunny said:
Whereas I suspect you're correct, and that those involved have no guilt about lying (it was for the purpose of getting evolution out of the schools, after all) it bothers me that they wouldn't be prosecuted. Regardless of who they are or why they did it, I think that they should be tried. If ID have prevailed in this trial, I don't think the opinion would be that they should be given a pass.

No matter what happens, unless a ruling is in favor of these twits, there will always be cries of "religious persecution". That can't be allowed to force one's decision process in how to deal with them. They lied, they should be tried.
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I agree absolutely,

I was just trying to rain on everyones parade, Christmas brings that out in me. :p
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Is there something in the law about separation of lack of church and state? :D

Indeed, if someone started lecturing students to drop their belief in god, I'd expect people to complain. How such complaint would be upheld by law I'm not sure.
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I think that that would be a violation of the Establishment Clause. Are they not barred from promoting or demoting any religion?

Melendwyr, the public schools are not atheistic. The only applicable characterization is that they are non-theistic.
 
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