Do athiests prefer The Catholic Church to Co$

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JetLeg said:
It is interesting that most atheists are glad that it happens to the church of scientology, but would give a desperate cry for human rights, if it had been the catholic church.
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This a a quote put up in the "latest commentary issues " part of the Forum. It was in response to a Belgian prosecutor recommending that the Co$ should stand trial for fraud and extortion.

Stand up all the athiests who would give a "desperate cry for human rights, if it had been the catholic church".

I am an athiest who wouldn't give a flying <Rule 8>.

How do others stand?
 
I know (have known) enough "well-meaning" Catholic priests to not directly label it a scam the same as Co$. You have to be pretty disingenuous to label all religion, at all times, as severely fraudulent.

What are the "good works" that Scientology does?
 
That's like asking me if I'd rather be shot at point blank range with a rifle, or a shotgun.
 
AgeGap said:
This a a quote put up in the "latest commentary issues " part of the Forum. It was in response to a Belgian prosecutor recommending that the Co$ should stand trial for fraud and extortion.

Stand up all the athiests who would give a "desperate cry for human rights, if it had been the catholic church".

I am an athiest who wouldn't give a flying <Rule 8>.

How do others stand?
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I would stand up. It would make my cheering look more authentic.
 
Catholicism is one of the greatest intellectual frauds of all time. In a court of law, I'm afraid that there are no laws which exist to encompass the extent of their fraud and extortion. If the Pope told them all the moon was made of green cheese, they'd eat moon rocks with their crackers. The only good thing about the Catholic church is that their rule was never as absolute as they would like to believe, and so freedom of thought developed in spite of them.
 
Depends who would be indicted in such a move. I'm sure there are Catholic priests who genuinely believe what they preach, just as there are Scientologists who genuinely believe what they preach. But the higher up the food chain you go in either church, the less sad I'd be to see it happen.
 
I would be happy to see any part of the catholic church stand trial for fraud and exorsion, if and when cc commits any such act. And as big as that church is i would be surprised if anything like that never happened somewhere. With any such case its not the church itself that stands trial, but the persons involved.
 
AgeGap said:
Mea culpa, do i need sackcloth and ashes or auditing. Hmmm, i think i will start a poll.:o
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We prefer flowing chocolate fondue fountains by way of contrition.

By "we" I mean "I."

By "prefer" I mean "will find any excuse to ask for."
 
I would like to see the catholic church having to answer for its crimes. Not likely happen as most of the worst things that they do are not against laws, or they can use their status as a nation to get immunity from their crimes.

There is no church that I would have serious issues with them being charged with crimes, provided the the crime is not something like "being a member of X church" or something like that.

Basicly I think churches should be treated like any other private social organization
 
Gurdur said:
I would say that today the Co$ is much worse than the Catholic Church.
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Hard to say. The Co$ is not spreading lies about how condoms are totaly ineffective for anything in africa, so I would think that the actions of the catholic chruch are causing a higher international death toll than the Co$.

But in developed nations the Co$ is a bigger harm to their citizens.
 
I would not put the Catholics in the same category as the Church of Scientology. I would cheer prosecution of the Church of Scientology, and I would complain about similar prosecution of the Catholic Church as a violation of human rights.
 
Meadmaker said:
I would not put the Catholics in the same category as the Church of Scientology. I would cheer prosecution of the Church of Scientology, and I would complain about similar prosecution of the Catholic Church as a violation of human rights.
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Yes, how dare people criticise an institution which lies about condoms to people in jeopardy of contracting AIDs, causing untold death and suffering.
 
ponderingturtle said:
....The Co$ is not spreading lies about how condoms are totaly ineffective for anything in africa, so I would think that the actions of the catholic chruch are causing a higher international death toll than the Co$.
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I am absolutely sure that if the Co$ could work out some way of massively ripping off Third World citizens and stealing their cash, the Co$ would. Just a pity for the Co$ that Third World citizens have so little cash.
 
Gurdur said:
I am absolutely sure that if the Co$ could work out some way of massively ripping off Third World citizens and stealing their cash, the Co$ would. Just a pity for the Co$ that Third World citizens have so little cash.
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Oh I agree with that, but the catholic church is spending money to lie to people on a large scale with very dangerous lies.

Taking someones money is not the same as lieing to them and when they act on those lies causeing them to get HIV. I hold the later as a larger crime.
 
AgeGap said:
This a a quote put up in the "latest commentary issues " part of the Forum. It was in response to a Belgian prosecutor recommending that the Co$ should stand trial for fraud and extortion.

Stand up all the athiests who would give a "desperate cry for human rights, if it had been the catholic church".

I am an athiest who wouldn't give a flying <Rule 8>.

How do others stand?
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I do not care which Church - but my rule is tolerate if it has been around for 500 years. Do not care regardless.
 
Asking if I prefer Catholicism or CO$ is like asking if I prefer Poodle crap or Doberman crap.
 
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