Bikewer
Penultimate Amazing
Was listening today and they mentioned the segment. I'll be in bed (midnights) but they do have these shows up on streaming audio within a couple of hours.
Bikewer
Penultimate Amazing
Listened to this tonight. Pretty good show, actually. Guests included Alan Leschner, from the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Nick Matske from the National Center for Science Education, and Richard Land, from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Leschner and Matske made strong points that all skeptics would be familiar with. Land seemed to be sticking strongly with the “thousands†of scientists involved in the ID movement, and encouraging people to go to Discovery.org to “see for themselvesâ€.
Matske commented on the situation with the Kansas school board, and ongoing state-level lawsuits and proposals on this question.
Leschner made a good point responding to Land’s assertion of the large number of scientists involved in ID. He said he was aware of only a couple, he knowing literally thousands of professional scientists.
They also quoted Rick Santorum, who had been interviewed this morning about President Bush’s comment, and he said that ID did not belong in the science classroom. (Santorum may have his bad points, but he’s right on with this…)
Most of the typically-well-informed NPR listeners had pointed questions for Land, who was frequently squirming for answers.
Rehm mentioned that the president’s science advisor, after the president’s remarks, said that listeners should not infer that the president meant that ID should be taught alongside Evolution in the science classroom. (Though that’s what most folks seemed to hear…)
One listener astutely pointed out that she would like to see just what sort of curriculum the ID supporters were proposing, since none had apparently surfaced. Land replied that they would not be teaching religion, but that introductions to biology should include mentions of the ID movement, with perhaps information as to websites and so forth.
It seemed to me that Land was trying very hard to be “reasonable†about the whole thing, mentioning several times that he was for separation, and didn’t think that religion should be taught in science classrooms.
Leschner and Matske made strong points that all skeptics would be familiar with. Land seemed to be sticking strongly with the “thousands†of scientists involved in the ID movement, and encouraging people to go to Discovery.org to “see for themselvesâ€.
Matske commented on the situation with the Kansas school board, and ongoing state-level lawsuits and proposals on this question.
Leschner made a good point responding to Land’s assertion of the large number of scientists involved in ID. He said he was aware of only a couple, he knowing literally thousands of professional scientists.
They also quoted Rick Santorum, who had been interviewed this morning about President Bush’s comment, and he said that ID did not belong in the science classroom. (Santorum may have his bad points, but he’s right on with this…)
Most of the typically-well-informed NPR listeners had pointed questions for Land, who was frequently squirming for answers.
Rehm mentioned that the president’s science advisor, after the president’s remarks, said that listeners should not infer that the president meant that ID should be taught alongside Evolution in the science classroom. (Though that’s what most folks seemed to hear…)
One listener astutely pointed out that she would like to see just what sort of curriculum the ID supporters were proposing, since none had apparently surfaced. Land replied that they would not be teaching religion, but that introductions to biology should include mentions of the ID movement, with perhaps information as to websites and so forth.
It seemed to me that Land was trying very hard to be “reasonable†about the whole thing, mentioning several times that he was for separation, and didn’t think that religion should be taught in science classrooms.