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Dennis Miller Bombs Again

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Hasn't made me laugh ever with his smug, smarter-than-thou style. He is digging his own media grave by not making fun of everyone across the board. Going to limit his best potential material. He's looking for a big pay back.

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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Dennis Miller has usually been happy to spray his acerbic wit across the political spectrum, but things will be different on his new CNBC talk program. President Bush is in a mock-free zone.

"I like him," Miller explained. "I'm going to give him a pass. I take care of my friends."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040125/D809VIF00.html

Can't be a good satiric commentator when you're an ass kisser.
 
"I like him," Miller explained. "I'm going to give him a pass. I take care of my friends."
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How can you give the president a pass? He's completely open and unapologetic about it as well.

The Daily Show tilts Left, I think, but they take shots at whoever is important or in power.
 
Jon Stewart > Dennis Miller. Dennis has to be making fun of people to be entertaining. Dennis kissing butts will be less exciting than Donahue putting on another dress. And yes, The Daily show has made fun of both Dean for his yell and Hillary for her Ghandi-owns-a-gas-station "joke".

In fact, as far as television and satire, I would say Craig Kilborne > Dennis Miller (when Kilborne was on The Daily Show). However, in football commentary, Miller > Limbaugh - but not by much.
 
Yeah, Miller's just being a Republican shill these days--he's not even hiding it, which is a shame. So much for being a comic. Or a responsible pundit (if such a thing exists).

Though I do have to give him some props--I saw one of his commercials the other day, where he said "Watch it [his show]--or I'll go back to doing football." I laughed my a$$ off.
 
Astounding.

I knew he became a Bush fan post 9/11, but to give the president a pass on your political humor show is like saying there's no reason to exist.
 
I have always liked Dennis Miller since the SNL days and I have seen him on stage twice. He gave great shows and he was extremely clever, even when I didn't agree with him. I even own some of his "Rants" books.

But now he's famous, and like so many famous people, he has decided to sell himself like so much chopped liver. It is very sad to see, like watching aging athletes shill for coffee-makers and electric grills. I fully expect in a few years to see Dennis on QVC pushing his "Hypersonic WMD Finder."
 
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Miller's just being a Republican shill these days
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I agree.Unfortunately more of the aftermarket programming on CNBC is just a shill for Republican ideaology these days.It's getting as bad as FOX.Miller's just wanting a paycheck and to ride some coatails after a botched career.Yeah Dennis,we get the joke,we just don't care anymore.Football kicked you out,you couldn't go back even if you wanted.
 
Didn't comics in Iraq steer clear of making fun of their leader as well?;)
 
I really liked Dennis Miller when he had his show on HBO. I didn't always share his opinion (although I mostly did), but at least he didn't sound like a sell-out. What a waste of talent.
 
Miller on Bush: "this guy is so dumb he thinks his name is Gerald"

Seriously, Miller may give the pres a pass on his new CNBC show but if you want to see him mock Dubya then just get some episodes of the old HBO show from 1999-2000.

I've never been a big Miller fan either.
 
I don't know exactly what Dennis Miller means by "I'm giving him (GWB) a pass" but he has a show that's on TV every night and if he just hammers one side over and over it's going to get old quickly. He can have his slant (to the right in his case) but ya still gotta make fun of everyone. The Daily Show is a good example...they got their slant but they're still really good because nobody is immune. Although Miller said he'd give GWB a pass I'd be surprised if he didn't poke fun across the spectrum because it would be dumb not too and Miller strikes me as a guy that's not dumb.

Miller has been conservative on TV a lot lately but he's still been funny and entertaining and that really is a key. I hear some say stuff like "Why is it that conservative celebrities like Arnold Schwarzenegger don't catch grief while liberal ones like Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins do catch grief?" and the obvious answer to me is always that Schawarzenegger is pleasant and amusing when he expresses his opinions whereas Sarandon and Robbins are screechy and scowling. It's not complicated. People are more apt to dislike you if you act like a pompous ass.

Proof that this goes both ways is Rush Limbaugh and Al Franken. Limbaugh is a grating windbag that non-ideologues automatically hate while Franken is always amusing and thus isn't automatically hated by non-iedologues. Dennis Miller should take that too heart. Get your slant in if you want but if you come off solely as just pushing an agenda instead of being pleasant or entertaining then it won't be long until all you have left following you are ideologues. And maybe you can make a living that way because there are a lot of ideologues around but you'll have the respect of no one, rather you'll have blind allegience of some and automatic dislike of others.
 
Number Six: ".... it would be dumb not too and Miller strikes me as a guy that's not dumb."
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To me he is a pompous ass who's not as smart as he thinks he is. He sure likes to make it appear he's the smartest guy in the room. A clear indication of deep insecurity.
His rationale for supporting Bush the other night on Leno was simplistic in the extreme.
To the effect of: the other guys over-analyze everything, and weigh all the options, and sometimes you just got to kill the other guy.
Miller has gotten tired of thinking, but of course it is the hardest work of all.
 
Number Six said:
The Daily Show is a good example...they got their slant but they're still really good because nobody is immune.
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The Daily Show is a good example of how going from a mostly slanted comedy (1999-2001) to more of an equal opportunity destroyer can make you funnier and broaden your appeal.

More targets == more material.
 
Was 2001 when Craig Kilborn left and Jon Stewart began? I thought the show got a lot better with Stewart. Speaking of guys that just come off as pompous...count Craig Kilborn for me. It's hard for me to believe that guy has a nightly show on a national network. He just doesn't do it for me. It's subjective I guess.

I generally have liked Miller ever since SNL although he does have a schticks and I can see how some may not like it. But like him or not he is very clever at times with his references.
 
It was in January of 1999 that Jon Stewart took over.

I used to think Dennis Miller was often annoying but occasionally funny until the aliens got him and transposed his brain. Maybe someone should check and see how Dan Quayle has been behaving lately.
 
subgenius said:
Hasn't made me laugh ever with his smug, smarter-than-thou style. He is digging his own media grave by not making fun of everyone across the board. Going to limit his best potential material. He's looking for a big pay back.
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By Bob, I just bet you love Al Franken, though...
 
Dennis Miller used to have a great show on HBO. That was until he realized that his "shtick" was to build up to a rapid-fire-rant at the end of his monologue. Then it seemed like he farmed that rant out to another writer, and the joke would be "can Dennis get out the rant without breaking pace or totally tripping over his own tongue, while he laughs at himself". Moron. Totally killed any comedy or satirical impact.


Dennis. Watch the Daily Show. Understand why Stephen Colbert is everything you should aspire to be. Understand why he's 100 times funnier than you were at your height, and he's just the SECOND BANANA on the Daily Show.

I don't agree with most of Dennis Miller's politics, but I USED to love his old HBO show. Why? He used to have the balls to say what he wanted to. I respect that, if it comes from an intelligent point of view.

Giving Bush a pass isn't an intelligent point of view. Calling him on whatever issue you feel passionate about IS INTELLIGENT and BALLSEY. Honestly Dennis, do you think the illegal immi---er GUEST WORKER plan is everything you used to stand for as a Republican? What about the Deficit?



Here's a test of the superior political comedy show. If Democrats were in power in all 3 branches, instead of the Republicans, the DAILY SHOW would still have material.

Did anyone see the "Simple Life" sketch about Dean in Iowa on the Daily Show? "Dr. Dean... He laid a TURD!"

Anyone see the Samantha Bee spot where she labled all the Democrats as being unelectable fringe wackos like the Looneys that run every election cycle (Lobster-man for president, The guy who's Parrot is running for president). Samantha Bee is standing right in front of Lieberman, with a condescending "you're so CUTE!" expression, like "You're so CUTE, you know you can't POSSIBLY WIN!" Hilarious. ACID viscious. Funnier than all hell.
 
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Kodiak said:


By Bob, I just bet you love Al Franken, though...
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Come on my friend. The involuntary reaction known as laughing is not dependent on the politics of the stimuli. Very much like an erection or orgasm. I'm not going to laugh just because of the poitical leanings of the comedian.
Comedy is the hardest form of drama because they either laugh or they don't. "Serious" drama is easier because the silence of the audience doesn't denote that you are dying.
Yes, Franken makes me laugh, sometimes. He made me laugh before his humor was political. I loved "Stuart Saves His Family" which was not political.
Your implication is mildly insulting, and I resent it. But I've gotten over it already.
I don't have a problem with anyone who laughs at Dennis Miller, or anyone else I don't laugh at. If you laugh at something, its funny to you. I don't have a problem if people don't like the same foods, music, women, etc., I like.
Degustibus non disputatum (There's no arguing with taste)
The point of the thread (other than he doesn't make me laugh) is that I think its somewhat strange and self-defeating to give a major political figure a "pass" especially if you are a political, topical, satirical humorist.
Sets yourself up to be ignored because you're not "fair and balanced", paints yourself in a corner, and, as others have pointed out, limits your material.
So, does he make you laugh? Does Franken make you laugh? And does it depend on political leanings to you?
 
subgenius said:

His rationale for supporting Bush the other night on Leno was simplistic in the extreme.
To the effect of: the other guys over-analyze everything, and weigh all the options, and sometimes you just got to kill the other guy.
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Yeah, I saw that too and thought, "Sure Dennis, it'd be a real bummer to have a president who thinks about stuff...whatta dope."
 
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subgenius said:


Come on my friend. The involuntary reaction known as laughing is not dependent on the politics of the stimuli. Very much like an erection or orgasm. I'm not going to laugh just because of the poitical leanings of the comedian.
Comedy is the hardest form of drama because they either laugh or they don't. "Serious" drama is easier because the silence of the audience doesn't denote that you are dying.
Yes, Franken makes me laugh, sometimes. He made me laugh before his humor was political. I loved "Stuart Saves His Family" which was not political.
Your implication is mildly insulting, and I resent it. But I've gotten over it already.
I don't have a problem with anyone who laughs at Dennis Miller, or anyone else I don't laugh at. If you laugh at something, its funny to you. I don't have a problem if people don't like the same foods, music, women, etc., I like.
Degustibus non disputatum (There's no arguing with taste)
The point of the thread (other than he doesn't make me laugh) is that I think its somewhat strange and self-defeating to give a major political figure a "pass" especially if you are a political, topical, satirical humorist.
Sets yourself up to be ignored because you're not "fair and balanced", paints yourself in a corner, and, as others have pointed out, limits your material.
So, does he make you laugh? Does Franken make you laugh? And does it depend on political leanings to you?
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First off, don't be insulted. I was being mildly confrontational hoping you would reply in exactly the manner you did. Though we disagree politically pretty much straight down the line, I'd probably enjoy meeting you and adding you to my substantial list of leftist friends.

Neither Miller nor Franken make me laugh, though the SNL crew's take on Bush I, then Dole, and now Bush II are all damn hilarious...
 
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