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Democrats Talking Down the Economy

NullPointerException

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The economy isn't doing bad at all. Considering everything thats happened we still have:
1. Half the unemployment rate of most European countries
2. Decreased Misery Index
3. Relatively High Stock Market

So please, point me to the severe economic depression that we aren't having.
 
I think the real problem with jobs is that people still have the bubble job market as reference.
 
The problem is the Democrats and the liberal media is doing everything they can to make the economy among other things look bad What is good for the Democrats is bad for the American people. What is good for America is bad for the Democrats.

Would you vote for someone whose only chance of getting elected is for you to loose your job or a few thousand Americans to get killed?
 
Outcast said:
The problem is the Democrats and the liberal media is doing everything they can to make the economy among other things look bad What is good for the Democrats is bad for the American people. What is good for America is bad for the Democrats.

Would you vote for someone whose only chance of getting elected is for you to loose your job or a few thousand Americans to get killed?
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Its good to have Rush Limbaugh here on the forum. If you are not Rush Limbaugh then perhaps you should properly attribute these thoughts to him (as I heard them on a recent Hannity & Colmes where they played a clip with these remarks).
 
I think the problem with the economy is that no matter how much progress is made in durable goods or whatever, it's hard for a voter to feel like it's a recovery when they can't find a job.

The problem is the Democrats and the liberal media
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The problem with the 'liberal' media is that whining about it gives conservative talk radio hosts and FOX News program hosts jobs. You'd think they would want a Democratic congress and president so they would have more to bitch about.

People sometimes forget that the broadcast and print media are in business to make money, and people are buying what they are selling, and that they are some of the companies getting kickbacks and tax breaks from the gubmint. How liberal could a company like that really be?

They want liberal shows, etc., because that's what people want to see. Quick! Name a conservative show in the Neilson top 20! When people stop wanting liberal shows, they'll stop making them. Until then, face the fact that most conservative pundits will be forever relegated to AM radio and basic cable. And that The Daily Show does more in 30 minutes than all the conservatives do in 3 hours each - and it's intentionally funny.
 
Outcast said:
The problem is the Democrats and the liberal media is doing everything they can to make the economy among other things look bad What is good for the Democrats is bad for the American people. What is good for America is bad for the Democrats.

Would you vote for someone whose only chance of getting elected is for you to loose your job or a few thousand Americans to get killed?
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So we should always vote for the incumbent, since it's always in the interest of the opposition that things should go to hell? :rolleyes: Also you obviously voted for Gore, since at that time it was in Bush’s interest that people would lose their jobs, and if you had been engaged in a war it would have been in his interest that Americans get killed. :i:
 
corplinx said:


Its good to have Rush Limbaugh here on the forum. If you are not Rush Limbaugh then perhaps you should properly attribute these thoughts to him (as I heard them on a recent Hannity & Colmes where they played a clip with these remarks).
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Well I did a google search and couldn't find that it belonged to any one. I'll take your word for it, if you say that Rush said it.
 
Kerberos said:

So we should always vote for the incumbent, since it's always in the interest of the opposition that things should go to hell? :rolleyes: Also you obviously voted for Gore, since at that time it was in Bush’s interest that people would lose their jobs, and if you had been engaged in a war it would have been in his interest that Americans get killed. :i:
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Only if the opposition is Democrats. I don't recall Bob Dole running down the country the way Kerry is doing. Didn't Kerry vote against funding body armor for the military?
 
corplinx said:


Its good to have Rush Limbaugh here on the forum. If you are not Rush Limbaugh then perhaps you should properly attribute these thoughts to him (as I heard them on a recent Hannity & Colmes where they played a clip with these remarks).
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Rush is said to have picked this up from lurking at "Free Republic".
 
Abdul Alhazred said:


Rush is said to have picked this up from lurking at "Free Republic".
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Ok so who did Rush get them from on Free Republic? Once I find out who was the originator I would be happy to credit them.
 
Outcast said:
Ok so who did Rush get them from on Free Republic? Once I find out who was the originator I would be happy to credit them.
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It's an argument that's been bandied about over there since before the campaign started. I really can't be bothered to track it down.

They may even have got it from Rush after all.

Where did you hear it?
 
Abdul Alhazred said:


It's an argument that's been bandied about over there since before the campaign started. I really can't be bothered to track it down.

They may even have got it from Rush after all.

Where did you hear it?
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During lunch break, somebody said something like that.
I did an internet search and nothing came up close to it.
 
NullPointerException said:
So please, point me to the severe economic depression that we aren't having.
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How about I just point to a Strawman?
 
In the interest of truth, the labels and voting records as like everything else, are distorted in an election year. When you hear the plaint " so n so voted against armor for the troops or so n so voted to eliminate school lunches" take a sharp hard look at the claim.

Normally in accounts like this the real case is distant from the claim. The typical mechanism in these cases is that when x voted against the armor for the troops...that means that at the last minute the Republicans snuck in a clause in the bill that would say ( hypothetical ) cut funds for Medicaid funded pre-natal care. That y voted against a bill for school lunches means that the Democrats insist on adding a few million to fund head start programs. It's all BS and the politicos think they can pull the wool over our eyes.

The dis-heartening thing is that the manage to do that so well to such a large portion of the public. BTW the adding strategy is called a "poison pill" it's old and used regularly.
 
TillEulenspiegel said:

The dis-heartening thing is that the manage to do that so well to such a large portion of the public. BTW the adding strategy is called a "poison pill" it's old and used regularly.
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So far, the only claim I have heard with any validity is that Kerry voted against funding Iraq.

Kerry claimed he supported the bill, but he tried to slip in a poison pill. When the poison pill was sunk, he voted against the final bill.

However, it should be noted that he promised not to vote for the bill at a democrat forum unless his changes were accepted. He went on record early before the vote.

So, I think labeling this as inconsistent is not quite apt since he put it up as a "principled stand" at the black caucus forum. Personally, I think he was doing what was politically expedient at the time to compete with Howard Dean. However, I can't divine his intentions.

These things are never really as black/white as you claim, however sometimes the real truth is worse than the sound bite.
 
" Personally, I think he was doing what was politically expedient at the time "

HEHE don't you think that's a quality of all politicians?
 
Outcast said:
During lunch break, somebody said something like that.
I did an internet search and nothing came up close to it.
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Perhaps you should start saying things that you thought of, then, instead of parroting your heroes.

Also: you realize De Gaulle was French, right? And the French are friends with terrorists because they didn't support our damn fool war. Why do you hate America, Outcast?
 
LFTKBS said:


Perhaps you should start saying things that you thought of, then, instead of parroting your heroes.

Also: you realize De Gaulle was French, right? And the French are friends with terrorists because they didn't support our damn fool war. Why do you hate America, Outcast?
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That is really profound. I quote De Gaulle, therefore I hate America. Maybe you should do less thinking and more parroting. You might make a better impression.
 
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