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Death Penalty

Thor 2

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Was somewhat surprised to find no reference to this on this forum when I did a search.

Given that a high percentage of posters here are from the US of A, and this being the last developed Western country retaining the death penalty in many states, I would like to hear their opinions.

Mind you I suspect that most here, being probably brighter that the average Joe Blogs on the street, would be anti the death penalty.
 
Well, I may be an old-fashioned gentleman, but when it comes to the death penalty I say never on the first date.
 
Thor 2 said:
Was somewhat surprised to find no reference to this on this forum when I did a search.

Given that a high percentage of posters here are from the US of A, and this being the last developed Western country retaining the death penalty in many states, I would like to hear their opinions.
Mind you I suspect that most here, being probably brighter that the average Joe Blogs on the street, would be anti the death penalty.
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That is one way to invite open conversation, I suppose. :rolleyes:

Maybe look under "capital punishment".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=5825447
 
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At this point I'll assume it's another psychopathic thing that 40% of Americans support just to tweak the other 60%.
 
Trebuchet said:
An amazing number of the "thou shalt not kill" crowd are in favor of it. But of course that's what it says in their Book.
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As with so many topics the Book they refer to is all over the place on the subject of taking life.

Having done some research on the death penalty in the USA, there is clearly a preference in favour in the Bible Belt states.
 
Trebuchet said:
An amazing number of the "thou shalt not kill" crowd are in favor of it. But of course that's what it says in their Book.
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Well actually, their Magic Sky Deity is just fine with killing people, so long as they are either babies or "The Other" ("The Other" being the un-godly and unrepentant sinners).
 
Without the death penalty, prisoners wouldn't be motivated enough to figure out what color hat they're wearing.
 
Thor 2 said:
Thanks for the heads up. Looking through that thread, the topic of conversation seemed to be mainly about method of execution, whereas I would like to encourage discussion about whether capital punishment, of any method, should happen at all.
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There are actually numerous threads on capital punishment. But, the link seems to have died.

I would ask, why would someone suggest that say, a self-confessed mass-murderer, should be kept alive?
 
Warp12 said:
There are actually numerous threads on capital punishment. But, the link seems to have died.

I would ask, why would someone suggest that say, a self-confessed mass-murderer, should be kept alive?
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Begs the question of why myself or anybody else should get to decide when someone else shouldn't be allowed to live. Why don't you explain that first.
 
TheGoldcountry said:
Begs the question of why myself or anybody else should get to decide when someone else shouldn't be allowed to live. Why don't you explain that first.
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Begs the question of why myself or anybody else should get to decide when someone else shouldn't be allowed to live free.
 
Thor 2 said:
Was somewhat surprised to find no reference to this on this forum when I did a search.

Given that a high percentage of posters here are from the US of A, and this being the last developed Western country retaining the death penalty in many states, I would like to hear their opinions.

Mind you I suspect that most here, being probably brighter that the average Joe Blogs on the street, would be anti the death penalty.
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We’ll sure, if you sufficiently narrow the collection of countries then the US is alone in maintaining the death penalty.

I oppose the death penalty because getting it wrong is an irreversible error. I definitely oppose it for rape. Talk about disproportionate punishment.
 
Thor 2 said:
Was somewhat surprised to find no reference to this on this forum when I did a search.
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Warp12 said:
Maybe look under "capital punishment".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=5825447
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Thor 2 said:
Thanks for the heads up. Looking through that thread, the topic of conversation seemed to be mainly about method of execution, whereas I would like to encourage discussion about whether capital punishment, of any method, should happen at all.
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I'm surprised you had difficulty finding threads discussing whether there should or should not be capital punishment for certain crimes, since there have been numerous threads here discussing it over the years. Here are some links to a few of them:

From 2005, a 5 page thread: Death Penalty...Yes, No or Undecided?
From 2007, an 11 page thread: Death penalty is wrong, this is why..
From 2010, another 5 page thread: The death penalty.
From 2012, a 4 page thread: Death Penalty

And you can easily find more. Just click on the death penalty tag and it will bring up a list of the threads which discuss the subject. Granted, some of those are threads about particular death penalty cases or particular methods of execution rather than the death penalty itself, but I think you'll find that a good number of the threads which come up include the kind of discussions you're looking for.
 
TheGoldcountry said:
Begs the question of why myself or anybody else should get to decide when someone else shouldn't be allowed to live. Why don't you explain that first.
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You get to decide because you're you. Who else has the authority to tell you what you do and don't get to do?

The most anyone else can tell you is the consequences they envision, if you do something they don't agree with. And even then, it's up to you to decide if you want to live your life according to their vision.

This, by the way, is the fundamental principle behind the death penalty. Someone living their life contrary to your vision.
 
Starting a few years ago I found it difficult to simply Google a few keywords and part of a thread title to find the thread I was looking for. I heard a few words here and there about the search function being messed up. I dunno.
 
I think there can be little doubt that, at least in the USA, the death penalty is not a deterrent to murder - in fact, having a death penalty seems to encourage murder.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-...y-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

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I'm wondering why that could be? Perhaps a person who has killed and knows they are facing the death penalty, has nothing to lose by killing more people, so they are more likely to cap witnesses?
 
I think the abolition of the death penalty is one of the greatest human achievements. It's too bad the Greatest Country in the World mostly doesn't agree.
 
You want me to trust this government (and it's zombified citizens) to handle such an important matter? Hell no!

I am against capital punishment because humans are too stupid to be trusted with such things.
 
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