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Death Penalty in China

Oh, wow... Imagine seeing that pull up to your front door.

Do Chinese kids follow it around, trying to guess whose house it stops at next?

Anyone know what it says on the side?
 
Its funny how death penalty advocates are only in favor of it if they dont have to see it.
 
It looks like an ambulance, yet serves a diametrically opposite purpose.
 
BPSCG said:
It's funny how people who eat meat are only in favor of it if they don't have to visit a slaughterhouse.
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I call fake. Are you willing to wager that the majority of slaughterhouse employees dont eat meat? I will take that bet.

BPSCG debating 101

Lesson 1 - the one trick pony

If you cant defend a position just quote the oposition and replace a key word with something unrelated. Sit back and smile at your new strawman.
 
Anti_Hypeman said:
I call fake. Are you willing to wager that the majority of slaughterhouse employees dont eat meat? I will take that bet.
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that analogy would only hold if you where also willing to bet that the majority of responsible for overseeing executions are anti death penalty. are you?

personally i don't see what the fuss is? Is the death penalty less moral if its on wheels?
 
Anti_Hypeman said:
I call fake. Are you willing to wager that the majority of slaughterhouse employees dont eat meat? I will take that bet.
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I'm sorry, I've read that sentence about five times now and still don't see how it makes sense.

If you cant defend a position just quote the oposition and replace a key word with something unrelated. Sit back and smile at your new strawman.
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What position is it that you believe I can't defend?
 
brodski said:
personally i don't see what the fuss is? Is the death penalty less moral if its on wheels?
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I'm going to agree with this. Consider that the alternative they are moving away from is firing squad.

Is a lethal injection chamber itself suddenly more morbid if its on wheels? I wouldn't freak out if a there was a slaughterhouse on wheels.

Don't get my wrong, I think China's human rights record is atrocious and if the allegations of forced organ donation are true, I'm appalled. Moreover I hold no illusions that the Chinese justice system treats its suspects and convicts remotely as well as they should.

But as far as the stated purpose of executing convicted criminals, I don't see what the issue is.
 
Do you think it plays music like an ice cream truck? The garbage trucks in Taipei do.

Michael
 
At the very least, I think it is in poor taste. It shows a government with such a detachment from the emotions surrounding the death penalty that this makes sense. They are executing so many people a year that a “deathmobile” is actually financially viable.

I don’t know. I find myself so put off with this thing that I find it hard to express exactly why I find this so revolting.
 
The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which "Devil" Zhang took his final ride."
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The sad thing is that given the current state of affairs in the U.S., this patently absurd argument is reasonable.

Anti_Hypeman said:
Its funny how death penalty advocates are only in favor of it if they dont have to see it.
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I think all executions should be public and televised; maybe forcing people to witness the barbaric system currently in place would make it more difficult to turn a blind eye to it. On the other hand, human nature being what it is, televised executions would probably become the next big reality TV sensation.
 
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I always thought that organs from someone that died by lethal injection were useless, because of the chemical contaminant, but that organs from someone shot were more viable.
 
Random said:
At the very least, I think it is in poor taste. It shows a government with such a detachment from the emotions surrounding the death penalty that this makes sense. They are executing so many people a year that a “deathmobile” is actually financially viable.

I don’t know. I find myself so put off with this thing that I find it hard to express exactly why I find this so revolting.
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Well, I understand the detachment part completely. They definitely take the humanity out of a lot of their justice, and I certainly wouldn't want to find myself falsely accused there.

Asking people to hold their mouth open when they plug them in the back of the head to preserve their facial features just seems significantly more appalling to me than waiting for a lethal injection to arrive I guess.

To me, moving to lethal injection mobile actually says a lot more about their system and older execution methods.
 
How about those who object to the death penalty, both in China and the United States?

Are we allowed to find these vans repulsive, without being hypocritical?

:confused:
 
Jimbo07 said:
How about those who object to the death penalty, both in China and the United States?

Are we allowed to find these vans repulsive, without being hypocritical?

:confused:
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You can find them repulsive without being hypocritical for sure. :)

I personally was just trying to point out that considering the realistic alternative in China at the moment, they don't seem any worse than the status quo.
 
Furious said:
You can find them repulsive without being hypocritical for sure. :)

I personally was just trying to point out that considering the realistic alternative in China at the moment, they don't seem any worse than the status quo.
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Well, it started with Anti_Hypeman. The first question is: how many people who posted in disgust are also death penalty advocates? BPSCG then made the meat eating and slaughterhouse analogies. I read that as a counter to AH's post, not as a sober recrimination of meat eaters. If so my next question is: does BPSCG take the eating of meat as a means to justify execution vans? :boggled:

In the same way that vegetarians get around this thorny issue (I'm not a veggie), being against the death penalty (everywhere) gets around choosing one style over another. Would it be much different if we could humanely zap them out of existence?

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