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Dean Meltdown

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This one picture alone will cost him the nomination.

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"Rolling up his shirt sleeves and shrieking so loud that his voice cracked, a raging Dean rallied his supporters with forced optimism and a pugilistic tone that stood in contrast to the formal upbeat speeches by his opponents.
"I'll see you around the corner, around the block," Dean said, sounding like a bully taunting Kerry and Edwards, whom he'll face in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday.

"He's crazy," said Republican pollster Frank Luntz after watching Dean's bizarre performance. "This is everything that voters don't want to hear from him. He's just lost the Democratic nomination for president. He's too hot."
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/16225.htm
 
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that picture and the soundbite. sounded like a lunatic or a losing football coach at halftime in the locker room.
 
subgenius said:
This one picture alone will cost him the nomination.
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We can but hope. I've been watching Dean with dread as he moved to front-runner status. Yes, we need firebrands to call Bush on the carpet for the truly lousy job he has done, but you can't have a hothead and an extremist as a candidate, because they can't win. I'm glad this happened sooner rather than later. Now maybe the Dems will nominate a candidate who can get us out from under the worst president since, well, Reagan.
 
More Dean character asassination! The guy gets excited and tries to rally his supporters and it gets thrown in his face. Sure he kinda sounds like a pro wrestler, big deal. Would you rather have a stick in the mud robot like Gepart?

I think its unfair how the media targets Dean. Everything he does gets blown out of proportion in an attempt to prove hes an unstable maniac. Reminds of how Dan Quayle was portrayed as being dumb at every turn.
 
Is it just me, or was his meltdown somewhat reminiscent of the Wellstone "memorial"?
 
Freeze-frame photos taken of someone while they are speaking are cheap shots.

Dean hurt himself by losing it, and the end of his speech last night was ridiculous, but you can find photos of anyone who speaks publicly that would 'lose' them the election.


In the words of one man: I have not yet begun to YEAARRGh...
 
aerocontrols said:
In the words of one man: I have not yet begun to YEAARRGh...
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And then, to the jubilation of his supporters, he ripped another goat in half with his bare hands:

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did
 
Tmy said:
More Dean character asassination! The guy gets excited and tries to rally his supporters and it gets thrown in his face. Sure he kinda sounds like a pro wrestler, big deal. Would you rather have a stick in the mud robot like Gepart?

I think its unfair how the media targets Dean. Everything he does gets blown out of proportion in an attempt to prove hes an unstable maniac. Reminds of how Dan Quayle was portrayed as being dumb at every turn.
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I'm usually sympathetic to victims of character assissination, but this was Dean's own fault. People don't want a president who flies off the handle. It's just not acceptable for someone in that particular position of responsibility. I watched Dean last night with a combination of revulsion and wonder -- wonder at what the hell he thought he was doing. Who wants to rally around a red-face, ranting anger-boy who spouts off a list of states he's going to win 3 times in a 10 minute speech. Bizarro self-emolation.
 
Those pick were chosen on purpose. Im suprised they didnt draw in little hitler mustaches while they were at it.

If Dean was a republican we'd be hearing about how the "liberal media" is being unfair to him.
 
I never really bought into the idea that Dean was some out of control hothead. I dismissed it as simplistic talk show sound bytes. I figured that he was just trying to be the most energetic and outspoken canidated during the primary since that is what put him ahead in the first place. It would have been forgotten about in six months when Dean inevitably would be painting himself as a centrist (which he is) for the general election. I was pleasantly surprized that he came in third last night, though.

Aerocontrols is certainly right about the picture, but the end of that speech? Egads, man! It sounded like the war cry of a cartoon supervillian.
 
Ignatius said:
Aerocontrols is certainly right about the picture, but the end of that speech? Egads, man! It sounded like the war cry of a cartoon supervillian.
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"And I would have won Iowa too, if not for you meddling kids!"

"And then, Kerry, THE WORLD!"
 
Tmy said:
Those pick were chosen on purpose. Im suprised they didnt draw in little hitler mustaches while they were at it.

If Dean was a republican we'd be hearing about how the "liberal media" is being unfair to him.
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Did you witness the speech? No picture can capture the awful quality of his performance, and he's lucky about that.
 
I would vote for Dean if nominated.

Having said that, I disagree that the picture misrepresents what took place that night, visually, verbally or emotionally.

Many of us are "mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore," but that isn't how you necessarily win a nomination or election. Maybe that's not right, but that is the way it is. The election will not be decided by the "true believers" on either side. The swing vote has all the power.
Not to derail my own thread but that is why a third party vote, in the national election, is a vote against the lesser of two evils. Maybe that's not right either, but that's the way it is.
Dean shot himself in the foot.
 
hgc said:
Did you witness the speech? No picture can capture the awful quality of his performance, and he's lucky about that.
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I agree the video is even worse than any of the "freeze frames".
You can be sure this will be repeated endlessly, and he will also become the butt of many jokes. Wanna bet SNL leads the next show with it?
He will not be able to stay on message for all the defending he will have to do of it.
 
Tony said:
Is it just me, or was his meltdown somewhat reminiscent of the Wellstone "memorial"?
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You mean the 3 hour memorial with 10 minutes of partisan politics....and that 10 minutes gets the airplay in the national news?

I agree with you, Tony. It might be very much like Paul Wellstone's memorial.

I only heard Dean's speech on the radio, it did sound a bit cartoonish. I think seeing it on TV might have given me a different impression.

The press has picked the characterization of Dean for the rest of the campaign. He's a "maniac", "unstable", "angry", etc.... The sad part is he's playing into that role.
 
specious_reasons said:
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The press has picked the characterization of Dean for the rest of the campaign. He's a "maniac", "unstable", "angry", etc.... The sad part is he's playing into that role.
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Once again, the press is not as responsible for Dean's image as he is. Do you think he played into something that had been invented for him, or that the press had good reason already to portray him as a hothead?
 
hgc said:
Once again, the press is not as responsible for Dean's image as he is. Do you think he played into something that had been invented for him, or that the press had good reason already to portray him as a hothead?
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I'm just expecting Dean to be Gored. Even if he's not acting like a hothead, the press will gladly fit the facts to the image. It makes "good" news that way.

I didn't see the speech on TV, I might be more forgiving of his representation in the press were that the case.
 
Tony said:
Is it just me, or was his meltdown somewhat reminiscent of the Wellstone "memorial"?
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You've obviously fallen for the conservative media's propaganda about that event. I'm guessing you saw soundbites on Faux News and drew your conclusions directly from Hannity.
 
subgenius said:
Having said that, I disagree that the picture misrepresents what took place that night, visually, verbally or emotionally.
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I just want to say that I'm not saying that this particular picture misrepresents anything. I just object generally to the idea that snapshots of anyone can be used to demonstrate any sort of point.

Even when they are representative, it's impossible to tell unless you have the accompanying video.
 
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